My Miscellaneous Thoughts On How To Improve Game

Some of these ideas are not necessarily my own but anyways here goes. These are things I deem to be major problems as opposed to simply things which could be improved but don’t need to be:

  • Allies OP

I think almost everyone agrees on this point. It hurts neutrals so badly and also pressures them to open-claim neutral which goes against the spirit of the game.

  • Observer OP

If Follow were reverted into how it used to be (as I hear it was split into two weaker abilities), the problem would disappear.

  • Chronomancer OP

Chrono is very close to being a killer Physician who can self-care and heal in the same night.

  • Posswords

Giving Possessor the whisper history of his Possess target would eliminate this tedious meta and is a better solution than the current whisper-reading one for Puppet-Strings. Also, give him the entire chat and ability feedback history of his target.

  • Prince Exe & Coldsteel unusable before n3

The only reason this exists is because of gamethrowers, but your anti-gamethrower system supposedly works very well so get rid of this. It encourages neutrals to open-claim D1 as well as letting Fools (and people pretending to be Fools, like Sellswords) to run amuck for 2 days.

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  • Noble twin-vote confirmation

Noble twin-vote notification should not be public if it doesn’t affect the trial’s outcome. According to my philosophy, any ability whose primary use (in practice) is confirmation, needs to be changed to eliminate this practice. The current primary use of twin-vote is confirmation, so it needs to be fixed.

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Ye

Not sure that’s the solution but obs is definitely the best investigative by far

Considering people like me are arguing that it’s UP instead you need to pride more evidence. She’s closer to a nerfed Knight than a Buffed Physician. And physician is better at her job than chronomancer

Ye but not sure how that would work from a UI perspective

Ye. Only makes sense to disable N1

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these changes will just change the meta ending up having 2 people exe, and the noble pardon with twin vote on a suspicious person being upped. This has already been suggested, and isn’t an effective way to stop it.

It actually would be effective since it forces everyone to risk a mislynch in order to test a noble claim, along with the difficulty of coordinating it with sincere blue dragon players and the fools/sellsword who are deliberately sabotaging your efforts

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vote on a suspicious person being upped

if it’s important bd like mystic or prince of course you’re not gonna do this

even if you want the person executed, because of the difficulty in coordination amongst blue dragon along with the evils deliberately interfering, it will not be practical

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Considering people like me are arguing that it’s UP instead you need to pride more evidence. She’s closer to a nerfed Knight than a Buffed Physician. And physician is better at her job than chronomancer

My main issue is the Chrono’s ability to delay himself and another at the same time, maybe reducing his pocket dimension to 1 use would be a good start

Ye but not sure how that would work from a UI perspective

Me either, but just details …

Only makes sense to disable N1

I think it should be allowed N1 also. There would be less troll claims D1 but in my opinion, so what? It’s dumb that I can’t execute in prison someone who claims to be evil N1

you can go either way with prince but Knight and Hunter I’d lean more towards no N1 CS/Wolf

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Why?

because they won’t have any info N1

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I wouldn’t call Chrono overpowered, but it is s bit redundant. It’s just a mixture of Knight and physician. And it’s underpowered if anything. The only advantage it has over phys is being able to kill, but Knight outclasses that.

I wouldn’t be opposed to making them usable night 2, but there’s no real info you can have night one. We shouldn’t encourage the neuts out mentality.

That would require a lot of coordination just to confirm a single player. Evils would try to disrupt it. And if you really think that it’s an issue, here’s a possible replacement:

Bribe(Uses: 2)- Force target player to execute of pardon the accused. Affects decide fate. They will not be notified until the final vote.

His night abilities are UP though, so it makes up for it. And either of his night abilities would be OP as a day ability.

But you can have no real info night one.(at least with Hunter and Knight. I would be fine with allowing prince to execute night one) A lot of people troll day 1. We also shouldn’t be enforcing the neuts out mentality.

Honestly it’s not a neuts out mentality it’s more a don’t claim neutral D1 mentality

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that’s not true, there’s plenty info n1, at the bare minimum you get an alch and fake prince claim, enough for reaper to kill with circle and scorned to get a successful and checked frame

bare minimum is nothing. There isn’t a fake prince and alch every game.

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Maybe may wolf a day Ability COUGH

And what’s wrong with that?

Exactly there is nothing wrong with killing all neutrals who out D1 glad you agree

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Wolf is fine as a night ability, it just needs another class that can fake it

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Honestly there’s a good counter play to NOT claim neutral D1

What’s wrong with claiming D1?