[NFoL] Newbie Forum of Lies 4 - Day 4 - The Blue Dragon and the Plutocratic King win!

My reads are close to my heart and putting a final say on them this early would be counterproductive for day 1.

Solic is by far the most active & aggressive, which makes him trustworthy. At the same time, he is a veteran so he likely knows exactly what he needs to do to win our trust.

Just saying, you could just act similiar and be like look im in my town meta, some people townread self meta-ing imo i dont.

Yeah, this was just where I was really hype. It has no substance because there was nothing to go off of (one of the first posts in this forum).

I said that partially as a meme, but seriously, my first game I was in turned out disastrous when we open claimed D2. The Prince was outed and the EK did a GT D3, winning the game for evils D4. I do NOT want that happening again.

It’s because I took that as a joke. If you actually killed me N1 I already told you I’d have it in my logs :wink:

Woah woah woah. I don’t read Solic as town. He seems town, but I am going to put him on my null reads because I am aware that he could just as easily be evil based on the fact that he has a lot of experience and knows how to appear as town. [quote=“Napoleon, post:305, topic:77638”]

Yeah it’s kind of confusing for me as well Derp. Like if Solic is open claiming Knight then it leaves one less person for town to theoretically check at night, but if he’s just memeing then I wonder if that’s really beneficial for town since there’s a lot of newbies who can get easily confused

This quote comes to me as genuine and unsure of Solic’s alignment and class. Even more proof that Tele and Solic are not a scumteam. This makes me townread Tele as well.
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I can confirm, Solic and I aren’t a scum team. But I do think it’s dangerous to put Solic in towncore that fast. If protectives end up on an evil it’s really bad for town because that’s less protectives for them, obviously.

Yes! Contribution is great. I would love to hear from everyone. Speaking of which, how come we are only going after Italy when other newbies (like Sog man) haven’t been asked to make reads either? I guess we will get to them?

Information is power. Especially on D1, D1 is really the advantage for town to get an edge on evils.

TBH my perspective kind of has changed about this. I am thinking Italy might be having trouble scum reading or even trying to scum read because he could be scum himself.

I just know that people can act super scummy and actually be town because they’re new and don’t have a lot of experience or get scared to try.

I’ll try to solve the game for us, if evils don’t win D4 by my last game lol. I hadn’t pretty good reads in FoL23. [quote=“Napoleon, post:305, topic:77638”]

The most important thing you can do as town is TRY to scum read. You can be absolute trash at it (like me during my first one), but putting in effort is what differentiates you from being town or scum

Good thing to say as town and trying to encourage Italy to reveal something about his alignment.
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TBH, if you aren’t putting in that type of effort then you’re basically useless to town. Abilities aren’t that important here.

burden of TMI? I’m not sure what that means, but I can tell you that I’m town [quote=“Napoleon, post:305, topic:77638”]

I would say this if I were Knight to bait neuts into claiming so I could CS them, but no one would fall for it lmao

So you are not Knight. Don’t go to that on a fake claim :wink:
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If I was a Knight I wouldn’t do that strategy because it wouldn’t work anyway. But you’re right, I’m not a Knight :slight_smile:

Thanks for the ISO, I appreciate it. Doing ISOs is really good for newbies, it helps get a good indicator of what people are saying on an individual level and helps determine if they are actually adding anything to the conversation or not. I do read you as slightly town because of your effort at deduction.

This is really a bad look and would just confirmation bias them into it, because if you’re looking for an alignment, you’ll find it, so it’d be an exercise in futility without a scum game next to it.

I’m happy you were proud though.

I’m not asking you to place accurate reads, but something that shows you’ve been analyzing this information, at the very least. Who are your townleans, if slight? I’m not asking for an “Arete”-style justification. Asking questions but not connecting them doesn’t come out as super game-solving for me.

It’s understandable for tele not to take that seriously, napoleon. If you were a BD killer you’d likely be penalized, and if you were actually a killer, you’d probably be stopped in your tracks or caught.

I actually am afraid of having to follow that meta.

In that game I posted about 20% of the content and I don’t want to have to follow that every time.

I’m planning on still being active but less active than before.

wait no i replied to solic

Nani

copied because its not letting me quote from the search tab

tele: Personally, Solic seems to be trying to lead the court FMPoV. He is being skeptical of everyone’s comments and asking them for their thoughts. This reads as town to me, but at the same time he is an experienced player and could just as easily be open wolfing as scum.

tan: I’m fine with rescinding my scumread on Italy, but I want to see him contribute more. As it stands, he seems like he desperately wants to be left alone, which coupled with the aforementioned break of character strikes me as odd.

after ISOing cheeki i take back my townread, didnt like encouraging neuts to claim d1

The person leading the court is the person who steers people on who they should vote most of the time.

Like the simple one would be the king read if he didnt realy want to out his reads, because honestly my slot really doesnt matter til like D3

Yeah I know. I just wanted everyone to have that game without having to look. I didn’t really think that deeply about it

Of course. Never hurts to confirm.

Orrrr are you…

No

Mass

Claiming

Even your super clever secret softs that you think a collective of scum won’t be able to read, but somehow town will. :roll_eyes:

But I’m a Knight CS’ing tonight though. ^^

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Yes Im a Paladin also checking Napoleon tonight :stuck_out_tongue:

Too bad :man_shrugging: This is what you get.

im sheriff checking dat tonight

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Im king checking dat