I’ve seen too many games where NK becomes king. Hell even I do it. It’s the easiest way to win as NK, just kill the king and boom, BD loses a NK and gains a 100% neut king. I made this thread for possible suggestions and discussion
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One solution could be: All Neutrals Killer are changed into Evil King, not only Sorcerer? 
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Psychopathic King
Neutral Special
Pass The Torch (Passive) - If you die, a new King will arise
Insanity (Passive) - You are night immune
The Royal Finger (Day) - Your vote for today counts as 2 votes - 1 Day Cooldown
Decide Fate (Day) - You may change the result of a trial - 1 Use
Personal Execution (Night) - Send a guard to kill a player - Infinite Uses
Your objective is to Eliminate the Blue Dragon, the Unseen, the Cult and any Neutrals who stand in your way.
The only solution.
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No RF cooldown? Why? That just confirms them as PKing, and will rarely be useful (especially if you’re smart snd plan for it).
Oh, really?
Dang, I should’ve been using RF much more often!
Granted, I’ve only ever been Evil King or Reaper-turned-King, so.
while I like the psycho king, I’d say it’s reasonable for him to get the NK level of a win condition… IE remove the “neutrals” from the list of things he can’t win with. Make it an option for alcs etc… to win with him, and no real reason for him to eliminate scorned/inquis etc…
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That’s what that’s supposed to mean. It’s “Neutrals that stand in your way”, which I suppose isn’t entirely accurate in ToL, as there are none.
He read it as “(Blue Dragon, Cult, Unseen, and Neutrals) who stand in your way” instead of “Blue Dragon, Cult, Unseen, and (Neutrals who stand in your way).”
It’s an understandable error.
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I like that psychopathic king. All NK could have that as the king role so no there won’t be ppl asking for a NK king because the king would be as bad as NK
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Not to mention it also puts a crazy high risk on just becoming king as an NK… and a pretty funny NK strategy.
Step 1, Kill king
Step 2, don’t become king
Step 3, stop killing, let everyone notice the reaper/possesor has stopped acting
Step 4. Watch BD kill the new king.
Though I do agree with psycho there, he needs guards, Personally I’d say make him a regular king, with a kill all BD/Unseen/Cult goal.
I like this idea but it would be really easy to find the NK king if someone just asks him “Send a guard to protect me to prove you are not Psycho king”. I think the NK king should still have the guard ability and not be night immune, if he is afraid of being attacked at night he can just guard himself, and since he was the NK he can only be killed by the unseen/cult who don’t usually target king since he is usually protected.
Also this is a random suggestion but he could also have a different decide fate that has 2 uses instead of 1 but can only force executions, not pardons. The second charge would be very powerful but the king should be careful and not use it until the end since it basically outs him as psycho king.
This should be removed for King’s guards so he can do a better job keeping his morality hidden, but guard notifications need to stay for mercs to prevent merc claims with contracts on anyone, otherwise there’d be no way to disprove from abilities.
Yeah, there would - anybody visiting the Merc’s target.
I’d love if the Merc thing was removed too tbh
Every Neutral Killer should turn into an Evil King.
The Possessor or Reaper winning by turning into a Neutral King is so boring and goes against the spirit of the class and the game.
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I agree with this, I’ve had several game when the NK just outs themselves and says that if they let them be king they will out the mastermind, which is easy to find as a NK.
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