Ignoring the part about how it affects the meta, none of what you’ve said proves or implies in anyway that scout spy requires less skill than global spy. In fact it is impossible to disprove that scout spy (if it can be used the same number of days as global spy) requires more skill because of the simple fact that both spies have the exact same potential but fulfilling this potential is more difficult with the scout form.
Scout Spy requires more skill than Global Spy.
No because they do NOT have the same potential. Their differences do not just effect the odds of seeing any given whisper but also effect which combination of whispers can be seen at all.
What I said about global whisper seeing multiple groups applies but also scout spy keeping tabs on a key figure for the entire game. Both of these use cases are unique to each tipe of spy. Therefore they do not have the same potential
Are we talking about the same kind of Scout Spy? Because when I say Scout Spy I have in mind a limited use night ability that is controlled during the day like Sheriff scout, not a permanently active scout spy.
Scout spy’s by definition remain active until at earliest the person being spyed on dies.
Okay well that’s obviously a different definition than the one I was using. I would support your version as long as we get rid of Global Spy.
Then you do not support my version. Because it is explisitly not designed to replace global spy
Then nope I don’t lol, basically I want to get rid of Global Spy regardless of what it is replaced with.
It too heavily discourages scum (neutrals and kings included) from conspiring during the day. If an evil scumreads someone so well that they correctly identify them as another evil (like Assassin and Evil King, or Sorcerer and Mastermind, or Fool and Neutral Killer) they should be encouraged to conspire with each other.
At the moment, they are heavily discouraged by the enormous risk of global spy.
Scout spy is an even greater risk for these kinds of plays at the point in the game where this matters.
I’ve seen the old targeted spy catch far more evils doing these kinds of plays compared to global spy who I have yet to see catch scum this way.
And I have seen evils cooperating so it isn’t scaring off all the scum from trying. I’ve done plays involving whispers semi-reguarly and all I need to do in order to counter maid spy is wait a bit.
