Offensive Reworks

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#1

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Offensive Reworks:

Servant (Unseen Offensive)

Passive: Dutiful

Day Ability: Hallucinogenic Wine: The target will think they were poisoned. They will receive a notification if they were healed, as will healer. 1 use.

Night Ability: Serve Wine

Night Ability: Party

Steward (Blue Dragon Offensive)

Passive: Persistent - Occupy and Redirect immune.

Day Ability: Confound - Disable the targets day Ability’s for the rest of the day. They are not notified until they try to use a day Ability. It still consumes a use of the ability they were trying to use. 3 uses.

Night Ability: Lead - Redirect your first target to your second. You cannot make your target visit you or themselves. Unlimited uses.

Retainer (Unseen Offensive)

Passive: Persistent - Occupy and Redirect immune.

Day Ability: Confound - Disable the targets day Ability’s for the rest of the day. They are not notified until they try to use a day Ability. It still consumes a use of the ability they were trying to use. 3 uses.

Night Ability: Lead - Redirect your first target to your second. You cannot make your target visit you or themselves. Unlimited uses.

Invoker (Cult Offensive)

Passive: Fanatic - Occupy and Redirect immune

Day ability 1: Bewilder: The next day ability target player uses will fail. 1 use.

Day ability 2: Empower: Your night ability’s will bypass occupy immunity tonight. 1 use.

Night ability 1: Chains of Corax: Occupy target player. 3 uses.

Night ability 2: Strings of Mithras: Redirect target player. You are immune to attacks you redirect. 2 uses.

#2

For Servant - this is interesting. It’s a way to distract the Healers. I like the misdirection.

A more reliable and useful version of Tornado.

Steward - I’m leery of adding so many immunities to so many classes…

#3

I know, but it is the only new immune class in the entire rework, so I think it works.

I also have my eye on removing Isolation for the Hunter as well.

Actually also Duelist, but still.

#4

I think it makes sense on Hunter but could be removed from Duelist.

#5

I just realized? Are Steward and Retainer replacing Drunk and Alcoholic?

#6

Uh, no? The classes serve different functions. Lead doesn’t make you immune, and you also can’t make them visit you.

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#7

If it is removed what happens if he is targeted by a drunk?

#8

Also duelist has Immunity for the same reason as hunter in addition to his own problems.

Aka: Lancer stagger

#9

I don’t get why Hunter needs immunity.

If he bears, then nothing happens because Bear doesn’t target anyone.

If he wolfs, it’s no worse than a Drunk causing a Knight to CS him.

#10

Hunter needs immunity because of the poacher.

#11

That doesn’t seem like a huge problem.

Besides the fact we should remove this notifications, if the Unseen or Cult get promoted they lose it.

#12

Personally. I consider this a problem too. OCC Immunity should be like RB in this way.

#13

Actually, it might be worth it to tweak Poacher a bit. If we make it an Acolyte like class, it can do fake bleed, like with an ability like Rampage.

I don’t really have a full idea, so I’m just brainstorming.

It would also be an excuse to remove Isolation.

I still think we could solve this by removing notifications.

#14

InB4 we put judgement on an Unseen

#15

And removing the notifications has balence problems ect

#16

I think Drunk is fine without it. He does already do kill investigations.

Butler has a self defense mechanism and can off the King.

If we need to, I’d be fine adding a bit of a buff.

#17

I think it would still just cause more problems than it solves but this isn’t even the purpose of any of this.

#18

But we should remember that removing notifications means we’re making it less friendly for newbies, so while this isn’t too much of a problem for us, it would really mess things up for first timers and such.

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#19

It’s definitely something to consider.

I do think the game would be better for it though.

#20

Or maybe this would be a good time to give that Casual Mode that was discussed like a month ago into action, the one with what was it? One of each class type and stuff?