Opinion Thread: The Fool (ToL)

You’re implicitly assuming that all scummy people are BD

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Scummy = person who is either new or bad and probably your own faction
Checked by mechanics = person is probably evil (or framed)
(or the invest is lying)

So, scum can’t be scummy? Who knew.

In any case, BD is already punished for lynching BD, in that they lose one of their members

‘Add Fool to reward BD for playing badly’ seems like a questionable argument at best

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Why is Fool rewarding BD for playing badly??

This is just factually wrong, Priestess

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It’s what happens in reality.
That’s experience.

You said that Fool needs to exist to discourage people from lynching people who could be BD

That is, it rewards BD for playing badly (in a manner that makes people think they are evil)

And god forbid we every try to move past that by changing up classes that are keeping us stuck there

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Scummy is someone who is scumread by majority of players

I’m not saying that people never act scummy as BD but you’re claiming they never act scummy as scum, which is outright false

You mean, it rewards BD for playing good, right??
I dont understand you

So fool makes BD act scummy in your opinion?

No, it hurts BD that actively scumread and allows bad players (BD or otherwise) a crutch (“reward”)

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If you are playing in a manner likely to get yourself mislynched as BD then you are failing in one of your fundamental obligations to your team

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To an extent yes, but it’s moreso they’re not discouraged from acting scummy as much because Fool exists than they choose to act scummy because Fool exists

BD who actively scumreads = will likely scumread you as Fool, because that’s pretty easy in ToL
Not exing Fool = Reward for good BD players who actively scumread

Your most important one too

Oh wait we are talking about two different people right

I dont speak about the poor guy you are mislynching
I speak about the players who are scumreading
Aaaargh