Orangevitational - Aliens Win!

[Eavesdropper]

@Teleporter

What point in the thread were you at when you made this post? Asking for reasons.

Whatever post I replied to, which was before post 200.

I have more solid reads than that at this point lol.

[Eavesdropper]

@Teleporter

I’m sorry, I know you know the identity of your wolf partner. I meant you don’t know their alt identity.

Not meant to be a townslip.

Well, that answered my question. Townslip denied but response doesn’t look half bad.

[Cryogenics]

@student we are going to be besties tonight

[Teleporter]

@Eavesdropper

@Teleporter

What point in the thread were you at when you made this post? Asking for reasons.

Whatever post I replied to, which was before post 200.

I have more solid reads than that at this point lol.

You had a null read on me in that post, and you were replying to a post where Surveillance was basically dunking on me. I was a pretty polarizing/heavily scumread player at that point; you had a null read on me then?

[Eavesdropper]

@Security

maniacal laughter (sorry for scumminess)

I have a gun

IMO this entrance is exactly NAI so I’m just gonna ignore it for a bit.

[Eavesdropper]

@Teleporter

You had a null read on me in that post, and you were replying to a post where Surveillance was basically dunking on me. I was a pretty polarizing/heavily scumread player at that point; you had a null read on me then?

You were heavily scumread but I didn’t see why you should be heavily scumread so early in the game based on your posts. That’s basically all I have from that point in time.

[Coroner]

Hi I still need to read some of the roles, but wanna play some ace attorney rn. I will monitor the thread for now.

[Eavesdropper]

@Security

@Trapsetter

Security - Good role regardless of alignment. May want to leash it at least partially.

I cannot be leashed. I will be shooting whoever I think is a wolf regardless of role. This is the path of the righteous

This is either going to go really well, or really poorly.

[Teleporter]

/unvote
/vote Officer

Kinda lightly skimmed their ISO and they haven’t really shown much in the way of towntells besides the MU article thing.

Feeling I’m getting from reading their posts is that they’re kinda going with the flow as opposed to trying to make something happen.

[Eavesdropper]

@Eavesdropper

You were heavily scumread but I didn’t see why you should be heavily scumread so early in the game based on your posts. That’s basically all I have from that point in time.

BTW to elaborate on this - I did see some merit in the scumreads on you but it looked like a lot of people were willing to echo the scumread on you and to be perfectly honest, gut tells me there may have been a wolf or two there. I don’t have concrete evidence so it’s just a suspicion.

[Eavesdropper]

Thinking Stu is town, Tele is town, and rn Scientist, Officer and Facilitator are straight PoE unless they do something spectacular.

[Teleporter]

I guess my natural follow up to this question would be - who do you think the wolves who were parroting the scumread on me are? I was being scumread by a lot of people who I think are town now, which is why I’m asking.

And OK. Reason why I was asking was that I found it hard to believe that you had a null read on me when I was pretty much the central focus of the game back then. Thought you would have some sort of read on me, whether good or bad, by then.

[Teleporter]

@Coroner

Hi I still need to read some of the roles, but wanna play some ace attorney rn. I will monitor the thread for now.

[Eavesdropper]

@Security

Consensus villager lists always contain a wolf. Period. Making my action predictable allows the wolves to play around it if they have roles that allow them to do so.

Uh no they don’t
Sometimes, yes, but not always. I’ve scumstomped on a strong town team before with a perfect town core.

[Eavesdropper]

@Teleporter

I guess my natural follow up to this question would be - who do you think the wolves who were parroting the scumread on me are? I was being scumread by a lot of people who I think are town now, which is why I’m asking.

And OK. Reason why I was asking was that I found it hard to believe that you had a null read on me when I was pretty much the central focus of the game back then. Thought you would have some sort of read on me, whether good or bad, by then.

I honestly did not keep track of exactly which players scumread you I think the wagon was started by town, though, and the difference is how fast people jumped to clear you or consider that you might not be scum, versus players who really gave no reevaluation of you.

And yeah I specifically put you as null because of the fact that something told me you were town, probably mostly wagonomics, but I couldn’t find much to back it up until somewhere after that post. And you still aren’t my top townread so lol.

[Teleporter]

(honestly them changing it to friggin YES kinda ruined my desire to play through the first case)

[Eavesdropper]

@Trapsetter

@Security

Consensus villager lists always contain a wolf.

This is very wrong, a well-built and well-vetted towncore, even if tight or small, will likely be pure.

That 2nd thing is why I said a pool might be better, but there is also very little wolf roles that could stop your vig can do without outting themselves thanks to eavesdropper and surveillance.

Cryogenics, Teleporter, Trapsetter, Facilitator, all can be outted by the eavesdropper if they try and are the only ones that ccan stop them.

Making a pool for you to shoot in allows those actions to not overlap with yours accidentally.

I knew as soon as I got my role that I’d signed up for death lmao.

[Student]

@Officer

Student has come across sus to me. Very odd posts

@Officer

The early ones that came off as derpy along with their tone later seemed awkward like almost covering up their strange early impression, and saying derps are nai.

But the one that set me off the most is:

@Student

Everyone seems pretty villagery so far. Does anyone else have the same thought?

Just sounds rather fake.

@Officer

I don’t really expect you to continue talking about the derps in such a matter of fact way at all. My instinct is that a townie who makes those gets embarrassed and moves on. But it may be chalked up to personality.

Second part, I think teleporter has been okay so far. Scientist I may agree hasn’t made much impression and that would be concerning as we really want that role to be town.

I’ve had some trouble keeping the names straight and remembering who has posted what so it will probably take some time to form reads based on more than snap reactions.

From memory trapperman seems chill and confident, cryogenics seems eager to solve, and I thought I remembered more from facilitator but may need to reread their posts.

These are some of Officer’s early reads. Initially I was worried they were being opportunistic with their push on me, especially since they seemingly had no other thoughts despite there being over 100 posts in the thread at this time, however they gave some more. I can see how they get to their read on me and their other snapreads however I don’t think they’re particularly significant. The main thing to note here is how they thought Facilitator had produced more content, especially since I had a similar thought which makes me want to v read it even though I probably shouldn’t.

@Officer

I’m used to biasing someone popping back into thread after leaving to be a town tell, but it’s an easily manipulable one for competent scum.

Fac also tried to direct the trapper specifically, which may be good wifom for the sake of protecting Surveillance but felt potentially performative.

At the time, I thought this was a reasonable-sounding take, but it’s actually pretty hedgy especially with the lack of a stance after either point. Not a great look.

@Officer

I see what you mean about teleporter’s iso feeling rigid. When they posted that “mindmeld” comment about asking me to elaborate, I had a bad feeling about it at first since it was so pointless, but it then occurred to me that town may be more likely to make such a joke.

Maybe it’s just scummy though.

Again, another post I thought was reasonable but is actually incredibly hedgy.

@Officer

this is probably town

also I am agreeing with those saying student is ml bait, they have been looking more and more like town

@Officer It kind of looks like you’re sheeping the thread shifting in favour of me without actually considering it for yourself. Can you elaborate on why you changed your read on me here?

@Officer

I like the content/style of reads in Cryo’s reads wall, but somehow they feel detached from the reads they give? Like they are reading from a MU article and applying heuristics but not feeling them

This is a pretty decent post. I can see how they came to this conclusion even though I might not agree. As a wolf here he’d be more likely to scrutinise the actual content of the post

@Officer

/Vote Facilitator

Elim the peeps who aint towny yayeet this has been a psa from your honorable first officer

Uh, I feel like this is a weird vote but I’m not sure why. I think this has some W/W equity, if for example Officer could see Facilitator going down early (which is honestly pretty likely the case) and wanted to gain some cred from being an early pusher. Not really sure what this says outside of that, though.

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I was definitely townreading this slot too easily. Most of Officer’s content is pretty basic and hedgy. Their vote on facilitator felt pretty detached from the threadstate and not in a villagery way.

[Officer]

@Eavesdropper

@Officer

/Vote Facilitator

Elim the peeps who aint towny yayeet this has been a psa from your honorable first officer

Surface level thought: starting another wagon to detract from another one?

Sorry, still reading but I think I want to ISO Officer to understand where this vote came from. The timing was weird.

Traphouse had brought up facile as not having impactful posts and I agreed, it was on my mind and they had no votes yet. Felt like a good place for me to pressure.

[Eavesdropper]

@Security

Singlehandedly ending the life of 1/3rd of the wolfteam makes me 1/3rd of the reason we win. I’d call that a carry. For someone who sets traps as a profession, you’d think you’d be better at math.

I can’t tell how much of this is RPing and how much is just bad play tbh

Like I really don’t know how to read this slot rn.