Paint Your Mafia… Mafia: Electric Boogaloo - Night 4 - Town wins!

[Intensify]

@clonedcheese

@Arctic

intensify’s and kanave’s votes were basically at the same time to the point where kanave saw zone vote emilia and joined the 1 person wagon instead of going on the 2 person wagon on cloned

right

but intensify openly suggested the emilia wagon right before the two voted and looked liked they wanted to move, so kanave seeing this would have little reason to vote me

I said

“Emilia works as an altnerative”

And Zone went “sure”

@clonedcheese

@Intensify

I’m asking you this question because why the hell dont I vote no-eliminate then in that case if I’m partnered with Kanave?

because killing is strictly better?
I assume you were hoping to get more people on that wagon and not have it end in a 3v3

Kanave was 3/9

No-elim was 4/9

Me pulling Zone out of no-elim would put my “scum mate” in danger.

It’s strictly better for me in this case to not pull Zone out or initiate town to actually kill someone.

[Arctic]

@clonedcheese

@Intensify

I’m asking you this question because why the hell dont I vote no-eliminate then in that case if I’m partnered with Kanave?

because killing is strictly better?
I assume you were hoping to get more people on that wagon and not have it end in a 3v3

so here you tell intensify that he would move off no exe because an ML is better

@clonedcheese

lastly i don’t really think that’s a weaksauce? Scum!zone has no reason to a) move off of noexe or b) not go onto an existing wagon, especially if their goal is to save kanave

but then here you say that zone as a wolf had no reason to move off of no exe

you’re literally using double standards to selectively choose who you want to wolfread my guy

[Zone_Q11]

>.>
<.<
I started Emilia’s wagon because I changed my mind and wanted to avoid NoElim because “statistics”. Then I asked Intensify why he was voting cloned; he said cloned was useless; I disagree (internally) since cloned started the NoElim wagon and seems too kind to be killed, and we ended up voting Emilia.

[Arctic]

you’re fitting intensify’s actions into a world where he’s scum rather than actually saying he’s scummy for doing certain things, which is clear because you don’t look at zone as scum despite him being in a similar situation

[Zone_Q11]

I feel like people are throwing around my name without involving me in it, and I am uncomfortable with that.

[Zone_Q11]

IMO both Intensify is still town, and I am currently voting cloned so that Intensify would lose his argument about cloned being useless, but…

This is getting out of hand.
/unvote @Mercenary @sulit

[Zone_Q11]

Vote Count

Voted	Accusers	Count
Aelin	Nightingale, Marshal, Arctic, WindwardAway, min	5/8
clonedcheese	Intensify, thepigeonnyc, Wazza	3/8
Marshal	Aelin, Emilia	2/8
Intensify	clonedcheese	1/8
Not voting	eevee, AnthemBell, Zone_Q11	3

[Intensify]

Cloned’s ISO day 1 was pretty much fluff.

Weh

In a slow game at the time, anyone who’s wasn’t contributing much was worth killing pretty much.

That’s the sad reality and I admit that it might not be the smartest move, but at the same time, voting no-elim is strictly worse in every way for town.

[Wazza]

@Zone_Q11

3

set this to 4 considering you’re a doublevoter

[Zone_Q11]

Uh… no. There is no impact on “not voting”, and the hosts initially didn’t even include “not voting” so I want to keep it at 3.

[Intensify]

okay so one thing.

Cloned is lying.

About the VC he just posted.

If you literally read up, that VC WAS NOT FROM BEFORE KANAVE VOTED HIM, BECAUSE KANAVE NEVER VOTED HIM AFTER THAT VC. GO CHECK YOURSELF.

[Wazza]

well yes, ofc Kanave didn’t vote him since only me and Wind voted him

[Intensify]

@clonedcheese

This is the VC just before Kanave decided to voe me

Why does he say this then

[Intensify]

@clonedcheese

I think you quoted the wrong VC

[Zone_Q11]

I didn’t join this game to compete. I joined this game to have fun, and I agree with cloned’s idea to let everyone live…

…but then I started having second thoughts, and couldn’t accept D1NL because -as you said- it’s just an objectively bad choice.

Still, I want cloned to stay in the game because I believe that keeping him alive would make the game more enjoyable. Sure, he forgot to submit his night action, but I think that a PGO is a fun and interesting idea to draw and do.

[Arctic]

@Zone_Q11

I didn’t join this game to compete. I joined this game to have fun, and I agree with cloned’s idea to let everyone live…

good thing we don’t need to kill people to win then

[Intensify]

@clonedcheese

However claiming intensify is confirmed is erroneous here since nobody can independently verify them

This is infact true.

I do admit that my action was late to the party and that my action can’t be really truely confirmed.

However.

@Intensify

Night is right I guess. I tried withholding my drawing to catch scum lying, but weh, scum probably wouldn’t lie about who they visit.

I do explain why. Take it or leave it, I don’t care, this was my thought process. Of course, it was sorta right, because it turns out scum are lying about their actions.

@clonedcheese

Especially since i would assume they should’ve cancelled out with Arctic (that’s pretty clearly a “watch” action)

My conclusion is one of Arctic/Intensify is the one that’s lying, personally tempted to believe arctic on this one since “visited by emilia” had already been revealed at the time of intensify’s reveal

Qeustion: So you think both me and Arctic performed a watch action. Question is, why the hell would I say I have feedback tho then? Wouldn’t I just say I got no feedback? Cause that would be what I got if I performed a watch action and Arc’s action was a watch as well.

@clonedcheese

modpost candidates are eevee/Intensify/Arctic/Marshal + anyone else with fake

okay literally can’t be modpost candidate if you claim my watch cancelled Arc’s watch as well.

@clonedcheese

Intensify: I imagine being this aggressive is pretty hard, so they’re a bit above the other two on my list. But they are similarly mischaracterizing the nature of Kanave/me relations (see below), and is willing to execute me for that

So you think me mischaracterizing the nature of your interaction between Kanave and you is on purpose to put you as a mislynch correct?

If so, then I have more questions.

@clonedcheese

Then Zone, Intensify, and Kanave all decide emilia is scummy enough in the span of 40 posts, leading to this:

This is wrong.

If you check and read, me and Zone agreed that no-elim that was strictly worse in every way for town, so we agreed on anyone within PoE. Emilia was in PoE for not doing anything, and Zone iniated the vote, which I soon quickly followed.

Kanave votes noting “self-pres”.

@clonedcheese

First, if you somehow assume both zone and Intensify are town, then of course you would try and vote Emilia here; it’s a fast growing wagon, that at the time of her vote already had more votes than my own wagon.

???
No?
If you assume both of us are town, you’re not gonna automatically sheep us.

@clonedcheese

Next, it seems extremely suspicious that the Emilia wagon happened in the span of forty posts during EoD; I believe it’s pretty clear that at least one of Zone/Intensify was also aligned with Kanave

Again, if you read what happened.

I wanted town to no-elim and said was fine killing anyone within PoE.

Me and Zone both agreed and voted out Emilia.

@clonedcheese

I doubt scum will try and start a new wagon just like that; thus, I believe the followers (Intensify and Kanave) are scum here

Then why don’t me and Kanave enforce any new wagon?

@clonedcheese

yes
but the counterwagon only started existing a couple of posts before, and it was developed extremely quickly with intensify’s and kanave’s votes litterally being back to back

that’s a scum quickwagon following a wrong villager if i’ve ever seen one

There was like 4 other counterwagons.

[Intensify]

@Zone_Q11

I agree with cloned’s idea to let everyone live…

???

Okay then…

I mean if we wanted to have fun we could’ve played jackbox or a dangan misc.

I’m here to have fun don’t get me wrong, but at the same time, I’m not gonna fluffpost all day.

[Arctic]

@clonedcheese

However claiming intensify is confirmed is erroneous here since nobody can independently verify them

Nah
this is like in tol when an observer claims an overlook on the prince on n1
it’s impossible to fake because a bunch of people would have been visiting appel n1

[Intensify]

@Intensify

I wanted town to no-elim

To not no-elim

typo