Possessor needs a lategame buff, make jump pass death immunity

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#1

Right now, possessor can’t really beat unseen in late game (can’t kill mm, cant kill king)
And if bd is dominanting, they can just exe everyone but the king and win.

Possessor needs some kind of way to kill the death immune people.
I think make the jump pass death immunity makes sense.

Don’t forget, reaper can win whenever there are 4 players left, sorc can win with unseen/cult, and only possessor can lose with 2 players left.

Update: due to the discussion here, my two suggestions are:

  1. Make Possess pass death immunity, can only kill MM after n5 or n6
  2. Add a day ability that allow posessor to kill death immunity the next day. (2 use, can’t be used before day 4 or 5)
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#2

Possessor needs a late game buff*

Right* now, Possessor* can’t

needs some kind of way to kill the death immune people.

Possessor can jump after a misslynch, all in all I agree jump should by pass death immunity but nothing more. Possessor is already a very good NK with an interesting gimmick(I call it a gimmick as it is kinda of one)

#3

Yeah Possessor’s jump passing immunity is a good shout +1

#4

I think Possessor is perfect how it is now, they just buffed him. 2nd and 3rd jumps automatically facelift as the class they were previously without you having to use any of your 3 facelift charges. Also, your jumps leave your deathnote (or that person’s deathnote if you didn’t draw one).

If I had to vote on whether Possessor should be able to bypass death immunity, I would say no. If you are late game versus a Mastermind and an Evil King I’d say you are just really unlucky or didn’t play well enough xD

#5

It’s a small buff, but I think worth it. NK win rate is low as is, so something like this is a perfect buff.

#6

I’m OK with Possessor bypassing Guards, but not immunity

#7

I feel like it isn’t a big change. The only other immune classes that you can exist with is Mastermind and Scorned, and there it isn’t going to unbalance the game if Scorned gets possessed. Mastermind can be argued about, but it is pretty unlikely. I personally think Mastermind should be possessable, just to buff Possessor, but it has little impact whether or not MM or Scorned can die to possess.

#8

This is an oxymoron. Guards ARE night immunity.

#9

Oxymoron is incorrect term. You mean contradictory.

#10

They are synonyms

#11

He still needs a way to kill MM, posessor can’t outnumber unseen and he needs a way to deal with them besides wait for bd win and kill all bd…

#12

I feel like your right in that possessor needs a buff.I do not think that making their jumps bypass night immunity is necessarily the right call.I do think Reaper is the best NK by far.Think about it reaper snowballs late game.This does not mean reaper is without its flaws.Reaper cannot throw off suspicion in any way.Possessor can.Also you don’t need a way to kill MM as possessor.You win the 1 v 1 so all you need to do is get it there.Also you don’t mention the cult at all.All Nks destroy cult unless the cult overwhelm them. So your saying that the possessor needs a way to kill the MM/King which would only help in the scenario of you being in a game with unseen,the BD not killing the MM after D4 or the king being evil(which is only a 20%) and you actually getting to late game.Then you lose to unseen as you had no way to kill MM which would only happen if no unseen died that game as every BD you kill is one less convert target and therefore one less potential unseen.The only time I see this as being useful is in those 2v1 scenarios where I have no idea how you would get to in the first place and still lose.

#13

I’m not against a late game possession of mm, bit a day 4 random possession of them would suck.

#14

Oxymoron specifically is a statement that self contradicts. My statement was poorly described, as I meant it only bypasses guards and not other immunity

#15

Isn’t this the point of day ability’s? Just give him a 1 use day ability that makes puppet strings bypass night immunity’s

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#16

I’m saying that it self contradicts be guards and night immunity are one and the same. Meaning there is no “Other immunity” because they both have the same kind of immunity in the first place.

#17

I like this idea, it’ll open up strategy, do I facelift or make a secure jump

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#18

I really think Possessor is fine guys, he just got multiple buffs. Possessing MM after n3 would wreck Unseen

#19

You can leave a message framing current MM when you jump. Possessor is strong enough as it is and he does win solo against MM. You can also fake a sheriff claim and accuse him of being unseen if you know who he is. Starting king does not need the 6 guards. That’s the only point I agree on. But that is not an issue with the possessor, but with the king.

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#20

Posessor need a way to kill MM, the chances he’ll randomly do it n4 are very slim, most of the times he will possess the confrimed bd. (how many times you’ve seen reaper do it)
On late game(n6+)
unseen can win without MM