Prince, Princess, Seeker, Duchess, Mashal changes

This is completely unnecessary, though. Princess is currently the weakest investigative role in the game. There’s no need to further weaken them.

On the point of outing NKs I do agree, though. IMO more sources of framing should be available in the game so these results won’t be as fool-proof anymore. But nerfing Princess is not the way to go.

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The only thing I agree with is the prince change. Princess, seeker, and duchess need buffs, not nerfs. Marshal is balanced, the only change that should happen to it is that probe should work regardless of faction.

I’ve rarely seen princess out someone just because they are killer/offensive. Prince fits more in special than killer. Imprison is support, social, and offensive. Execute is killing, but it’s not prince’s primary ability.

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This made me think of this.
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I included more things, including a buff to Princess, Seeker, Marshal,
…but not including a buff to Duchess because I don’t think the Duchess needs a buff.

Duchess needs a buff tho

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Why? Dark Whisp is very powerful.

True but… it’s investigative ability isn’t really helping much but I guess it’s okay

oh I just got it. Make Dark Wisp a day ability perhaps?

Sure I guess that could buff it a bit more

what do you think about the other changes?
Princess got a nerf with the invest changes; but a buff with the accuse.

The princess buff is not enough, and the ability is more social than investigative. Flirt is fine, it needs a buff if anything.

This will still be useless. It’s not even that useful when the prince is alive, and the cult already knows who is bleeding.

It’s not. It only affects 2 classes in the game.

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Lul killer support. How do you not see the difference between a guy that is cloaked in a dark rope holding a sycthe and a guy who is holding a bottle of medicine. Don’t give me balance is more needed than lore cause this isn’t balance. This is a nerf that is totally not needed.

Killer: Blood.
Healer: Blood.

So great now you are to scared to out someone because they may be a healer

Making it useless…

If anything princess should have a ability that gives her a exact class type 1-2 uses for day ability

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I was thinking of a similar buff.

Charm(day)(2 use) - determine your target’s exact class type.

If this still isn’t enough, then maybe princess could be given a 1 or 2 use day faction check.

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Thatd the exact thing I suggested

And observer checks factions

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Observer shouldn’t though. If anything sheriff and paladin should be given the day faction check. Window peek isn’t related to follow at all.

No.

Observer is fine.

Sheriffs are counters to unseen not to the neuts