Princess Rework Idea

The Princess :mag_right:

Blue Dragon Investigative
Royal Blood (Passive) - As a Royal, you can put your name forward for nominations to become the next King.
Will O’ Wisp (Day) - Tells you if the target attacks anyone tonight. Only detects attacks that count as visiting. - 2 uses
Flirt (Night) - Check to see what Class Type the selected player is.You will receive two results, one of which will be their real type, and one won’t be. - Infinite uses
Woman Intuition (Night) - Check what player is capable of. - 2 uses
Defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

The Duchess :mag_right:

Unseen Investigative
Royal Blood (Passive) - As a Royal, you can put your name forward for nominations to become the next King.
Bat Eyelashes (Night) - Determine the target’s class type and faction. - Infinite uses
Dark Wisp (Night) - Uncage a dark wisp, making Unseen appear as not suspicious to investigative roles. - 2 uses
Defeat the Blue Dragon and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

Since The Princess is overall the weakest investigative class in the game and there already came some ideas for reworks i thought i made a thread about it as well.

The most noticeable change is moving Will O’ Wisp into day abillities and adding new night abillity that is i believe fit to Princess. It can determite which types of abillities (Except passives) player have. Their names have from class types.
Possible feedback:

  • [Name and Number] have [Class Type] abillity and [Class Type] abillity.

All Class Types Abillities:

  • Killer: (Execute, Cold Steel, Wolf Companion, Nightshade Wine, Emerald Potion, Ruthless Efficiency, Reap, Puppet Strings, Possess, Magic Missile, Circle Of Death, Assassinate, Nightshade Poison, Eradicate, Rupture)
  • Offensive: (Serve vine, Concentrated Wine, Debauchery, Happy Hour, Spike Traps, Snare Trap, Drug, Defile, Mind Warp, Mental Blur, Bewilder, Chains of Corax, Strings of Mithras)
  • Support: (Defend, Inoculate, Heal, Self Care, Magic Barrier, Tornado, Stoneskin Potion, Crimson Potion, Hide, Gather Darkness, Wall Of Fire, Dirty Work, Frenzy, Teleportation)
  • Social: (Political Pressure, Noble Twin, Maid Spy, Snoop, Telepathy, Private Matter, Link Minds,
    Conduit, Frame, Magic Dust, Magic Cloak, Dark Wisp, Facelift, Icy Touch, Trollbox, Distract,
    Brotherhood, Cult Pressure, Cult Spy)
  • Investigative: (Scout, Expert Investigation, Flirt, Will O’ Wisp, Follow, Window Peek, Find Magic, Foresight, Watch Carefully, Bat Eyelashes, Expose, Probe, Gaze, Identify)
    Notes:
  • “Convert” would be an Offensive abillity because otherwise it would bust MM/CL pretty easily.
  • You probably want to ask “Why feedback is depends on RNG?” The problem is that there is thin border between being reasonable and OP. Revealing 2 abillities would tell way much too much about possible class.

The Duchess:

Possible Feedback:

  • [Name and Number] is [Faction] [Class Type].

Any feedback/suggestions are apprieciated as always.

Have a nice day!

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Meaning NERFING NIGHTWATCH THE WEAKEST CONVERT IN THE GAME

Not really. Compare to Duchess, Nightwatch can find more specific roles in one night than she does.
Example:
Prince outing himself Day 2 and next night Nightwatch will follow the Prince. He saw 4 and 7 visited him last night. Thoughts? They are probably Knights/Healers who wanted protect him. If Unseen really want get rid off The Prince as soon as possible, then they have a knowlegde who are the protectives, when from Duchess it would take more time to find them.

Actually Alcoholic is the weakest Unseen convert in game but okay.

Infinite precise class type check and WOW at day?
Massively OP.

Yep and it wasn’t suppose to be OP. Fixed. :expressionless:

soooo… class type check? Seriously if this isn’t a class type check then list out the results it has on every class.

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No it isn’t typical class check. I added results. :slight_smile:

Ok so I select reaper. Do I get Social, Support or killer?

Social/Support/Killer

so hardcounter

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Worse-

it is…

R N G

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It’s either RNG or broken. Both of those are unacceptable

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but look how good it is, you can catch the Reaper with a blindfolded 360 noscope

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Yeah, Princess as-is is pretty perfect imo

The only thing that could be changed is WoW but I don’t think it really needs it because its main ability is already great

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I think that WoW should have 3 uses. The ability itself is good though.

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I’d say the ideal goal, rather, is to get Princess to a level where it’s not a solid strategy to say

Princess claim in 2018, exe guys

but also not confirmable whatsoever. Kinda like sheriff.
She must be more valuable but also

Mastermind royal blood WHEN

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Thanks

That’s where we are going for if you didn’t notice

No hurt just love :slight_smile:

I think that’s best achievable through making more classes easy to claim.

When all you’ve really got is Princess, Knight, and Sheriff, with the occasional Hunter or Physician claims, those three claims are looked down on

If there were, say, seven easy fakeclaims? Now none of them can be instant-exe claims, or else you’d just be executing everybody that claims and catching few scum in the process :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, we do need some more possible fakeclaims.

But we also need Mastermind and Reaper to have royal blood immediately

I usually claim hunter as Nk

No…

Why would a mastermind step up?