It’s so easy to prove as psychic with the day ability, rendering any framing / scorned plays that the scorned makes useless. The only possible way scorned could win in this situation is convince the others that the psychic is converted. If its a cult game, however, and the psychic proves himself, then the game is over for the scorned. The game shouldn’t punish the scorned for something thats out of his control, and he shouldn’t have to completely avoid one of his targets until hes converted.
Right, but it would be late game when that happened. 4 uses of day abilities, plus being able to prove themselves every night makes it overall much easier to prove a psychic compared to other bd, like the knight or sheriff.
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It can be a bit rough, but Scorned usually get two targets so if one is Psychic, try to get the other one?
Statistically it doesn’t come up much and let’s be honest, Scorned is mostly there just to keep Investigators from running roughshod over evil. It’s more a necessary evil than anything.
This can be compared with the prince. Hypothetically, if prince were a target for scorned, and scorned framed him/called him out, he would be dead within a day. Prince is easily proven due to the prince executing any prince claims, much like how the psychic is easily proven with day & night abilities. The only difference is that prince is guaranteed to not be converted.
Since psychic can prove by linking with king and using day abilities, hes not that far off from a non-converted guarantee. This is especially true in cult games. It would be rough and statistically rare if scorned had a prince target, yet the exception exists because it would naturally be near impossible for the scorned to pull it off with a decent bd. Same with the psychic.
That’s not why Prince is not allowed to be scorned . Prince can’t be scorned target because it dicks over bd way too much if he is
I think the Scorned should be given the EXACT classes of their targets so they know how to frame their targets best.
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I agree, with @Sketch Scorned should indeed get their classes. but maybe just “BD” or “NK” or something that doesn’t allow for a scorned to throw?
Woah, necromancy. Anyways, it is a good point. I’d personally replace Psychic and Telepathy, but it is pretty easy to confirm. I wouldn’t give Scorned any more powers.
Well it is still just as relevant as before. This way we don’t have to make a whole new post and go over what is already said.
We were discussing this in another thread. I like the idea of giving the Scorned the ability to disable Day abilities, as I mentioned before, since it gives evils an excuse for not using their day abilities to confirm in general.
Of course, in this specific case, Psychics can usually confirm by posting a list of who they linked anyway, but at least they could still be accused of being converted.