Reaper Buff/Rework

#141

Psycho Kings crowned from Reapers should have two Night abilities. Fatal Guards and Reap

Reap- send your guard to kill someone with your old scythe.This leaves an empty body for a day. The victim cannot be healed. (No souls or anything but yeah.)

They deserve the option to use their standard ability BECAUSE anyone (especially with Reaper’s royal blood) can say oh boy, reaper check new king and everyone does it, but people still die, they will immediately kill the Reaper based on technicality and NOT skill.
I’m not saying Psycho King should have GatherDarkness but Psycho King’s crowned from Reapers should be able to choose Fatal Guards or Reap\

Alternatively we could call it Harvest for the game’s own stability.

#142

I mean that’s great and all but that would just make GD bypassing knight even more of a problem.

#143

OKAY YOU WIN

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#144

I always do.

#145

That’s only when you dangle instant death for a psycho king under me like that.

Reaper, given royal blood, should not have any reason to choose not to become King. Being unable to reap(or call it harvest in Psycho King’s case) will utterly destroy him. and thus utterly destroy any reason to become King

So write it in the passive of Royal Blood (and you might want to call it something different since it does more now, but yeah)

Gilded Bones: You can now step up as King as though you had Royal Blood. Becoming the King will grant you access to a second night ability, Harvest, which allows you to send a Guard with your old scythe to Reap people as usual if you so chose.

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#146

It’s perfect now.

#147

Better if Icy Touch was removed.

#148

No

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#149

It’s not fun to force a player not to participate for a day.

#150

This isn’t FoL. It’s not long enough to be a big deal.

#151

FoL doesn’t demand constant participation. It lasts days, and you can’t play for half the time.

ToL requires one session of playing, that demands constant participation. You don’t do other things while you play. You are unable to anything for 90 seconds. It’s just not fun. It is a big deal.

#152

Most of the time when I was chilled before it was changed there were no dead active anyway. Or at least they weren’t helpful if they were. At most I would change the fact that it stops them from hearing (but notice how I already did that :wink: ).

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#153

This should happen with all attacks, not just ones that are healable. Reaper is the only NK with limited night immunity, and the only NK which uses up immunity for its abilities, it should be strong.

This is fine, but I’d prefer it if dark words was made into a passive and fatal guards bypassed death immunity normally.

Reap shouldn’t bypass healing. This is mainly to make gather darkness more useful and make physician more useful in reaper games.

The counterplay to gather darkness would be that reaper uses up night immunity to do it. That’s a huge downside.

#154

Dead can hear. Is that fun? Not really. It’s a bad argument.

#155

There are exactly 3 attacks that are not healable.

1: Prince exe - This would just be really weird to survive. You would be dead anyway because he can just keep jailing you until you run out of souls so it isn’t even a legit counter to it.

2: Enforcer frenzy - Surviving it would defeat the point of the ability more so than it defeats the point of this one.

3: Reap - You aren’t attacking yourself. Non issue.

That could be OP (dark words being free that is). Fatal guards bypassing night immunity deserves its own thread as it isn’t something for the reaper specifically.

That would be a HUGE nerf to reaper. What I have suggested here would not be enough to cover 1-4 extra chances to fail a kill every night.

Did you read ANY of what I said in response to Malt saying that’s enough?

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#156

It is enough to keep me occupied for 2 goddamn minutes.

#157

Like NuclearBurrito said most of the dead just leave and it is a buff for reaper plus you were using bm as an example so if people find bm so awful and unfun why isn’t it removed?

Edit: yes I know TOS’s devs are awful but surely they would remove it if almost all of the community hated it

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#158

I would not be opposed to a Reaper just straight up eating a Prince execute. In fact, it would force the Prince to out himself to get you exed, or just shut up and try it again. An interesting dynamic. I LOVE THIS.

You could make that case, but Fatal Guards should not bypass death immunity.

Agreed, that’s a downside but not a counterplay. I think Gather Darkness should go through everything personally but at this rate it might be TOO good. I think @NuclearBurrito is correct.

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#159

I should mention ToS blackmail isn’t the same. You can vote, and say “I am Blackmailed” while on trial.

Reading chat logs isn’t incredibly fun. You need to be able to somehow interact.

#160

Then being debuached by a drunk is worse