I may say ‘BS’ on that benefitting your team overall, but that’s a complicate thing. I mean, if you wanted him dead, you could attempt to wagon them or even have them killed at night.
Bussing your MM is always the wrong move compared to bussing a replaceable teammate.
The difference between bussing your teammate’s in day chat vs. Journal indicates your motive. Your motive was quite clear by your action of outing your MM in a will. That is how your motive for gamethrowing is clear.
It’s difficult for new players to understand that knowing dying is an important part of the game and that choosing when to die for your team is a team motivated play and sometimes for the better.
Writing out your scum team names in your will is objectively a bad play, and clearly reveals a gamethrower’s motive.
I’m not saying your MM was not an asshole or short about it. He might have been. But just because you don’t like how somebody did something does not mean you get to play God and ruin the game for everyone.
The dev’s have stated more or less that on a case by case basis, it CAN be against the rules which can lead to suspensions… While I must say I don’t agree with that, I would say that it is inacurate to tell people it is “not against the rules”. when the mods/dev’s have said more or less the opposite. I’d go as far to say from the ways they have spoken, if you had the opprotunity to communicate in night chat, but did not, that is absolutely within what they would define as gamethrowing. While in scenerio’s in which communication was not possible (say you know assasain was jailed, or if you were a sheriff that had just accused an assasain the day before getting converted). it would be more likely to be the accepted exception to the rule.
Hey,
generally what’s been stated is accurate. Buzzing someone without prior communication of this often leads to the victim of the buss to believe that the person who is throwing them under the bus is gamethrowing and revenge-reveal them in the game as well before they die, effectively gamethrowing themselves.
You can see how that turns into a mess quickly.
So generally, as mentioned before, don’t bus without consent. If you do and a chain of reports follows it depends on how the respective person handling the report interprets the situation.
On the topic outing people in your logbook: That is 100% intended gamethrowing.
The log doesn’t show up until you die, meaning the person doing something like this probably plans it in advance or shortly before dying, for the sole reason of just outing their factions members and getting them killed for whatever reason.
An exception would be a situation where you had just found an Unseen/Cult the night before and gotten converted the same night, forgetting to remove this from your log – mistakes like these happen and will normally be overlooked as honest mistake.
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So using the logbook to relieve suspicion on fellow evil players is not a viable tactic and is reportable.
Thank you for clearing this up robflop.
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I’m missing you here… the dev’s have explicitly said say lying and putting BD down as unseen, or listing unseen as BD in your log book is perfectly legal. What is outright undeniably gamethrowing, is outing actual unseen as unseen in your logbook. You can’t call it bussing to truely out, as you can’t improve your own credibility if they are looking at it after you are dead.
When you die as an evil faction and out BDs as evil. Do you automatically believe the evil person’s logs and exe those people listed? Doesn’t that make those outed in the evil’s log not suspicious. What I am saying is doing it for actual evil people could be called a tactic to relieve suspicion but robflop has cleared stated this tactic is not allowed.
9/10 someone will investigate those you list as evil. If they are innocent, you might waste some time. If they are guilty, you are likely getting them killed.
I’d RB the shit out of anybody a dead Unseen’s journal lists as Mastermind
That’s an easy win if true and little harm done to the BD if false
I did this to an Aristocrat as MM and I got banned, where can I send in a support ticket?
Right here, I think
https://forum.imperium42.com/c/support
If that doesn’t work try asking a Moderator on the Discord.
No clue what your circumstances are so I won’t pass judgement one way or the other, but I recommend not trying to evade bans. The OP here has been stellar in that regard (some people get really salty over temporary bans, and then get banned for longer for being toxic).
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My only advice is that if this ever happens to you, wait until the game is over. If the MM had won this game, you wouldn’t have felt too bad.
I was a MM, I converted an Aristocrat, I didn’t want one. I figured if I gave him up I would gain some trust too, so I gave him up. That’s about it. From what I have been hearing from here, from what I thought, from what I noted from the rules, from what I have seen before, this isn’t bannable. That’s my circumstance…
It shouldn’t be. There’s a chance that something else you did combined with your bus was taken as enough to warrant it in combination, but I wouldn’t know for sure.
I don’t know. But I can tell you for sure, there was no other scenario where I “Revealed my fellow unseen”, most definitely not one where I gave anyone up upon death.
You should really bus an assassin usually, as they have no previous actions to fall back on
i was an evil king before and i outted a cult. so i didn’t seem suspicious. i started as king. but i believe that caused me to actually get 3 day ban. which is dumb. lol these devs are ban happy
No, that’s not what you were suspended for. You were suspended because you were Cult Leader, your Ritualist asked you to convert someone, that person died that same night, and you flipped out and outed them and yourself in day chat. I can post quotes here for everyone to see, if you want. The suspension was for 3 days because of multiple other offenses and your previous history.
If you have a question about a punishment you can always approach a moderator, but let me assure you, this one was justified. In fact, I recognize your name from all the reports you’ve been getting for various things recently, you really have no justification for complaining about any punishment.
