[Rework Proposal] Scorned, the Bringer of Justice

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#1

This is an idea I had to make the Scorned more interactive and fun to play with and against, while preserving her flavour and identity.

The Scorned :balance_scale:

Neutral Investigative (Unique)
Resolve (Passive) - Immune to death at night, occupation and target changing.
Blood On Their Hands (Day) - If one of your targets is executed today, their journals will be wiped and they will appear as an Assassin or Cult Leader (automatic depending on the game type). Must be used before the target is voted up. - 2 uses.
Purging Spite (Day) - [Unavailable until the first win condition is forfeit]. You will use the supernatural power of your spite to heal yourself at the end of the night. - 1 use.
Sense Guilt (Night) - Visit a player. You will know if they can kill at night. - Infinite uses.
Specter of Justice (Night) - You will guard one of your targets, preventing them from death at night. They will also appear unfavourably to investigative abilities used on them that night. - 3 uses.
Survive to see both of your targets executed during the day. If either or both your targets die at night, you win by surviving until the end of the game.

Notes:

  1. Purging Spite follows the same rules as the Physician’s self-heal.
  2. Targets will not be informed if they were protected from an attack by Specter of Justice.

This new version of the Scorned is a lot more active and tense than the previous one, with a very similar goal but with more options and strategy. Feedback is welcome!

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#2

So does that means two targets are not known to the player at start?

Is it still RNG-based on non-unique BD classes?

#3

Actually mystic can be a target and is unique

#4

It’s surprisingly easy to get him executed

#5

That is correct, the 2 targets of the Scorned are random BD classes other than starting King, Hunter or Prince, which coincidentally are people you need to see dead by the end of the game to win if one/both of your targets die at night (along with NK, Inquisitor, Alchemist, Knight, and all Cult Leaders and assasins).

#6

This class is extremely win to play as and doesn’t furfill the main purpose of the Scorned (giving a good reason why someone would falsely accuse someone else early game).

If you tried to accuse early on like a normal scorned then you would be killed before you come execute your second target.

And don’t even get me started with how difficult the secondary wincon is. You are basically just a scorned who now has ALL THE WORST TARGETS!

#7

Also Alch can kill

#8

And Knight, and Butler

#9

Oh. Also her Investigative Ability is useless late game because she can’t recheck people incase of conversions

#10

Butler technically doesn’t kill at night, so I wouldn’t count them. Good catch on Knight and Alch, tho.

And yes, this makes the Scorned harder to play, while also giving her more tools to achieve her goals. If you can get your first target executed in a non-suspicious way, that’s the hardest part over, as you can hard-push the second target and Decide Fate.

It’s hard, but it can be done.

#11

It’s an Investigative ability that protects from death, I’m okay with that. And besides, conversion doesn’t change her goal. She doesn’t need to re-check targets.

#12

Conversion totally changes her goal. She needs to kill all the cult in a cult game to win because the CL is one of her targets

#13

Also anyone converted to the Unseen will inevitably become an assassin

#14

Point being you made a class that has a clear purpose both harder than NK and also doesn’t furfill the original purpose

#15

Her target being converted but still being alive doesn’t change her goal. Right now as Scorned you can get your target executed during the day and if they were converted you still get the win. That wouldn’t change here.

#16

Scorned I cri every day I miss u :sob:

#17

Not that. In practice you also need to eliminate the killers. And that means Unseen and Cult

#18

This is too hard to win as

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#19

I don’t see the Scorned’s purpose as preventing early accusations, just stopping BD from being thoughtless when lynching. This version fulfills that too. And besides, with Mind Warp and other framing effects, you can still get someone wrongly executed and not even be Scorned. I see it happen.

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#20

That’s what she said.