Ritual Mafia IV -- Spectator Chat

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#241

Although no, I think I get what you are saying. They had TMI that Amelia’s slot is town so they were pushing against that lynch for towncred.
Don’t mind me, it’s almost 12 AM and I haven’t slept since last night.

#242

But Seth is still a convert in this scenario, right? Does that make starting team Kyo/Marshal/Kat, then?

#243

You very much should get some sleep
No sleep for 24 hour period is disastrous

#244

Thank you, I’m… somewhat used to it. I’ll go soon <3

#245

Yes
Alternatively Katze could be replaced with Apprentice
It’s the most likely team here imo

#246

Too late though
Arete is definitely LW for their EoD2 trying to distract people

#247

Yeah, at this point I think its a very safe Congregation loss.
I mean, Kyo’s bait (which I think was very obvious but we are discussing it from our isolated vantage point, so eh) right into switcheroo on Kat/Marshal… And they get two nightkills tonight.
This game is basically over, the best they can do is attempt to make some good plays.

I still think that Kat has to be starting groupscum in this scenario. Or at the very least the first convert – his behavior doesn’t make much sense otherwise.

#248

I feel…bad for ici

#249

He brings up a valid scenario too, I guess?
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-3-lynch-phase-10-16/81237/12908?u=anstreim

If Marshal is a D2 convert then it kind of explains their interactions but he still voted for Apprentice D2. The wagons were almost even there.

#250

Hmm
That’s a fair point
But I’m unsure where last slot fits into it

#251

Mmmm, I still think if we presume that this theory is true, then we are sitting at:
Kyo [Sorcerer], Marshal [Shaman], Kat [Seer?] – OG Groupscum;
Seth [1st convert > Sorcerer], Alice [2nd convert > Shaman];
Arete [Traitor]?

#252

Going to leave this here because its hilarious.
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#253

Sulit is just scum
I’m eating my words

#254

Starting on convert? And who is scum with her?
Reminder, Kat, Arete and I want to say Alice all seem content with lynching her.

#255

Also was there ever a mention of Ritual being precisely swapped off of Kat, or did Marshal win because of a draw? Because I think if it was a win by draw:

Chosen One (Passive) - If there is a draw during a sacrifice vote involving you or the target of your “Soul Exchange” you will be sacrificed. (If the draw involves both your target has priority)

They can both still be scum.

#256

Starting
Saying Katze scum requires jumping through a lot of hoops, especially given that there have been a lot of questionable plays that Katze had to have made to be starting scum

#257

Mechanically ye, I agree
I’m more focused on Katze’s individual play though

#258

Also Marshal is 100% convert after some thought
I’m kind of shaky on what else is up

#259

So she would have to be a Shaman/Seer (if we presume Marshal was a convert) or precisely a Seer right now. Her claim is a Conjurer, and her logs so far are:
N1: Occupy Jgoes Vulgard;
N2: Occupy Arete.

#260

If Vul visited themselves and we believe that to be true on n2, then we have both a shaman swap and a shaman soul thingy
The soul one is accounted for