I completely agree, but “scum wouldn’t do this” is often an erring thought process
It, for example, caused scum to win in all of BotF2, BotF4, and Poisonous Mafia
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I’m probably just too focused on solving this ‘logically’ and by mechanics. You are right, this is a faulty mindset.
Can still agree with Sulit on this, however. That wagon not really moving is a bit concerning:
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-2-lynch-phase-14-16/81237/10045?u=anstreim
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Not saying that that’s a completely bad mindset
But standard deviation is to be expected with people having different approaches to a gam
I also find it curious that Marshal sounds like the lone voice of reason here (well, Sulit too but she’s mostly getting ignored):
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-2-lynch-phase-14-16/81237/10057?u=anstreim
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-2-lynch-phase-14-16/81237/10067?u=anstreim
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-2-lynch-phase-14-16/81237/10101?u=anstreim
many people have expressed doubts about the wagon but they aren’t ringing true because someone has a stranglehold on thread
Plus people rely too hard on mechanics to solve everything, which is ultimately disappointing
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Actually you know what I think might’ve happened with Amelia’s wagon? There are two tinfoils and one is a lot less likely than the other, but.
Tinfoil 1 (the unlikely one): All 3 groupscum jumped on Amelia’s wagon early, but did not have enough people to hammer;
Tinfoil 2 (more likely one): Amelia’s wagon contains only 2 scum at best, while the last one was purposefully avoiding voting to not expose themselves.
Might go and take a look at it again.
mfw when the actual players of the game aren’t sheeping the specgangs reads despite not being able to see them
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But like, the main thought here is:
They either voted too early, or the leftovers were too late to vote so they had to back off.
Vote Count
| Accused | Voters | Number |
|---|---|---|
| Amelia | katze, Arete, an_gorta_pratai, Vulgard, Wazza, DryBones, Marshal | 7/8 |
| Apprentice | Amelia, Alice | 2/8 |
| Icibalus | Braixen | 1/8 |
| katze | Icibalus | 1/8 |
| Wazza | sulit | 1/8 |
here’s what it looked like
If we had all scum jump on it early, then our team would be comprised of Katze/Arete/gorta, but since we are almost guaranteed that drybones is third scum then your first one might be right
Oh you got it first. I have post number if we need it.
Alright, so what we are thinking so far:
Katze + Arete are both scummy;
Vulgard/Wazza/Marshal are all town;
Gorta is dubious, possibly a convert, possibly just a townie trying to be cautious;
Seth is the prime conversion target.
So since we have determined that Kat/Arete are likely never groupscum together, but we view them both as a possible Heretic/Traitor, the second theory makes a lot more sense.
There’s probably one wolf who didn’t vote fast enough/specifically avoided voting on this wagon to not draw attention to themselves. Now I want to go and get Seth’s vote.
Since we now see sulit as town, I think it’s a good idea to remove them from contention
It’s mildly possible that either Alice or Apprentice are third scum based off that wagon
Got it.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-2-lynch-phase-14-16/81237/9356?u=anstreim
I don’t see Kat/Arete scumteam, though. I could see a Kat/Gorta one? But Kat was commenting on how dubious Napoleon’s interactions were + that light shade from earlier, remember? This thing:
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-2-lynch-phase-14-16/81237/8642?u=anstreim
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It’s possible that that’s distancing
Gorta was pretty middling in terms of reads, notably
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