Rules about mercs

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#1

I can’t remember if it’s specifically in the game rules or just one of those common sense rules. If not please add to the official rules about mercs. To many times I have a merc and when they whisper me to tell me they are my merc and they want to know my class. This is fine btw. Most also ask me if I’m good or evil. This is because of the “all classes side with BD” meta. I literally had a merc out me as unseen because I was acting evil. He said he was siding with BD. I was actually a legit BD drunk when executed in that scenario but still holds its value. Too many times mercs claim they can side with evil or BD because they are neutral.

It needs to be stated definitively in the rules or class card that mercs don’t take sides and outting your contract no matter what side they are is grounds for throwing and reportable.

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#2

Well merc can out the first contract and get a new 1, I dont see a problem here.

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#3

So the need can go against his class win condition and bus his first contract? For what reason? This I got to hear.

#4

Pretty sure that’s against the rules tbh

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#5

I thought so but apparently it’s not specifically. Hence the post above yours.

#6

My point is that as far as I know Eric is wrong here.

#7

Intentionally helping to get your contract killed so that you can get a new one goes against your win condition and is against the rules.

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#8

Thanks that is what I thought but like i said, it’s not clear enough. It happens too much. Tired of mercs taking sides no matter what their contract is.

#9

Yeah, going against your contract is absolutely against your win condition and thus breaking the rules. Second your contract dies, can do what you want, but up until they die, you work for them.

#10

I was my mercs second contract and he outted me for being unseen, I was BD, because he sided with BD.

Our dk killed him ofc. It may or may not have been influenced by me.

#11

Yeah, thats definitely the merc fucking up then, outing his second contract and getting them killed is losing the game for him.

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#12

asked this same question before, you are having to side with your target’s faction. Can’t out them for a new target

#13

you aren’t siding with a faction at all tbh. you are siding with your contract period. he can be BD then turn evil. It doesn’t matter.

#14

yeah but you can’t bus your target to get a new one

#15

We had this discussion before its not what came out of it.

As merc, its not about “going by your win condition”. You have to go by your contract’s win condition, even if it means you are very likely to lose the game.

#16

Well that doesn’t make sense. As a player you have to try and win the game.
I was in some games when my target lost (last bd left) and i’ve won. As a merc you have to keep your target alive.

By your sense if your target is a fool you should help him get executed.

#17

Mercenaries can’t start with Fools as contracts, the only way that can happen is if you offer a contract to one after your first one dies (which is… questionable at best because then you can’t both ever win)

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#18

I remember also being told if your contract gets called out you can silently accept their fate and vote execute and then get a new one, but you can’t call out your target.

It is similar to the rules for busing a fellow unseen/cult except they are always considered to be unwilling to get bused.

#19

This makes zero sense. You go by YOUR win condition only.

#20

I’d suppose the point of contention is whether intentionally shifting to the backup option for a win condition is acceptable. IMO I’d say it shouldn’t be. This isn’t to say you should get yourself killed covering for a doomed target, but having your target alive, and having the ability to shift to a second target, is more or less more universally better odds than throwing out your odds. They say don’t put all your eggs in one basket, having them in 2 baskets, and intentionally throwing one basket in the trash… is pretty inarguably bad advice.

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