This reads like DybuDabu logic but the general sentiment of the post is something I can get behind.
okay
I read through all of yesterday EoD
I think Hippoās is mostly fine in context apart from the post I quoted, I think it looks better in context than it did in Iso
Arcticās is really good, he has no reason to randomly lead a PKR CFD as Mafia a couple minutes before EoD with lol as top wagon
(well, the reason would be āto look townā but I donāt think Arcticās play is of a level where he would go out of his way to do that rather than being like ābut Iāll look sus for leading a CFD onto a villagerā)
Derpsās EoD is ā¦ not good. he basically does not seem to care about any of the villagers up for elimination and despite supposedly wolfreading Marshal he makes no attempt to actively push there
he said earlier it was because there were like seven minutes left in the day but thatās not the sort of thing I would normally expect to stop him?
Marshalās EoD reminds me of a thing she told me once about how she plays scum where she said that she tries to have āvillagery EoDsā to look good, which kind of makes sense with her trying to CFD off lol despite not having a particularly strong read there (if she didnāt expect the CFD to work) but I think that take is mostly āme being tunnelledā rather than actual evidence that sheās Mafia
He has a very obvious reason if they are partners.
wow
I wonder why I donāt think that Arctic and lol are partners
Which Iām not claiming to be the absolute truth, but itās a world that warrants some level of consideration. Especially if Blizer flips V. Blizer flipping V means that the PoE most of us agreed on has been terrible and re-evaluation is needed. This is when you question slots like Arctic. If Blizer flips W, then thereās less of a reason to do that, I just donāt like the continued insistence on defending Arctic when heās one of the people whoās pushed a lot of villagers.
Yeah, I know you wouldnāt say that because you replaced into the slot. This is for the rest of the thread.
Marshalās play today tempts me to kill her instead.
okay
so
does this affect your read on
just to throw out a totally random name
Marshal
oh
nice crosspost
Nice crosspost.
WHAT THEKCKRNCSMKCFMFMnfmrmfnf.
me: āwow, Vul pushing me for defending Arctic and completely ignoring the fact that Marshal is defending Arctic is super ā
Vul:
Thing is, Iām not ignoring it. I donāt like Marshalās play today and canāt really articulate why.
no no that was my point, that right when I had that thought you brought Marshal up
in hindsight expressing that with āVul: [blank space]ā was probably bad communication
can you try?
Her play today feels largely like cruise control and sheās surprisingly inflexible in her reads.
Her townread on me also feels suspiciously like a pocket so I can keep honing in on v!Blizer.
mrrr
Vul is like
slightly villagery right now
I donāt want Vul to be a villager because I want to have been right
weh
I can already see what sheās going to say. āSo progression jumps are okay now because youāre doing them, but not having jumps at all is whatās wolfy?ā
Context is key. The only āprogression jumpā case I have made this game was one against Marshal on day 2 when she solidified her townread on Marl at the perfect time to throw some heat off him. Progression jumps are not okay when they look like they were done to advance the wolf agenda. Same reason why I understand wolfreading me for swapping my PKR read. Though, in that case, I present to you:
āWhy did I flip my read on PKR to begin with, if heās a free misyeet and I can just sheep Arctic, regardless of Arcticās alignment?ā
Not having jumps and poor re-evaluation are hallmarks of wolves who donāt want to change the status quo if the game is headed into a wolf win.
Iāve never been complimented more in my entire life.
And my main worry about Marshal at the moment is that she is super insistent on Arctic and Eli being town, even when the gamestate is shifting. The reason Iām insistent on Hippo being town is that heās been consistently villagery, and Iāve tried to keep showing that.
My Atlas townread is mostly based on my estimate of Atlasās experience; a player with Atlasās level of experience making reads with no hedging and having a high postcount is >>>rand V. It might be a bad idea to clear them for that if they are more experienced than I think, or if theyāve been coached in wolfchat, but I donāt see a good reason to think Atlas is a wolf in isolation. You could argue āAtlas is a wolf for not contributing much,ā but really, the high number of posts and having actual reads that arenāt hedgy are major V tells for someone at a low experience level.
Areteās getting villagerier, by the way.