i think people have been saying it looks worse for me if marshal flips scum
which i don’t 100% understand but that’s probably because i have the short term memory of a goldfish and forgot their reasoning
Sigh…
You are not gonna get votes.
So spreading votes is pointless and let’s mafia chose who gets points easier. Don’t.
If everyone votes self and all mafia just votes mafia players… guess what will happen.
LIke… duh.
Whoever just votes for self without actually fighting for it, without actually having chance to win it, is doing it VERY WRONG.
And you should know it.
Yeah, you pretty much don’t have a choice unless you manage to convince 8 people to vote for you rn.
Possibly even more, considering that mafia can just lie.
Noone is currently voting for you. Noone.
Saying “yeah, whatever, vote for me” is not gonna cut the deal when mafia can just organize votes on one person.
Also it’s not the weekend anymore, so I can’t use my energy on fighting for evo pts. I care more about the lynch.
Then vote for someone who can win rather than actually waste a vote and let scum win it easier?
hot take: eevee shouldn’t get an evo point vote
because he’s definitely won the drawing contest
You are aware I un-resigned from contest only becouse there was chance of getting two points?
I didn’t want one.
Me having one point is literally VERY BAD.
also i just realized how much better my deck would be if i put double summon into it
amazing card that one
I’ve been abusing this emote lately, it’s your corrupting lovely influence.
Katze’s posts are all super agreeable. They don’t ping me either way, they are just… agreeable. I feel like a deeper ISO dive is necessary.
You mean N.1/N.2.
readlist TAKE TWO NOW WITH NOT HITTING REPLY TOO EARLY
anyways I know this is really long so if you don’t want to read 1,000 words of soundbites on everyone’s alignment I think the actually interesting part is at the bottom, below the linebreak.
Town
Vul - my perfect soulread on Vul says he’s town, also a bunch of his posts have given me townie pings. I have literally never been wrong on Vul’s alignment outside of turbos, including the time when another townie claimed an untailorable redcheck on him. Everyone should sheep my Vul reads because I’m objectively better at reading him than anyone else on the site.
Ici - Ici had a really good EoD1 and his reads don’t feel fake the way they do when he’s scum (looking mainly at Marson and Danganronpa here). Thinking this slot is very likely to be town.
Hippo - His opener was pretty good, I basically stand by what I said earlier about wolves not liking to annoy people the way his early memeing about a redcheck on Ici would, and his reads since then have felt unperformative. I also buy the derpclear with not knowing that Luxy was dead, someone asked me earlier if I thought that was the sort of thing he would fake as scum and I thought about it and I can’t remember ever reading him doing anything like that. I feel good about this slot.
eevee - I like how he’s been taking charge of coordinating the town with e.g. making sure that we can agree on who the Evo points go to, and things like that, that’s felt generally town-motivated. Townlean.
Italy - Thinking the duel on Marshal is a good look for him regardless of Marshal’s flip. Even if Marshal is town, it doesn’t make sense for scum to use killpower on someone that’s just going to get mislynched anyway.
Solic - I’ve generally felt like his progression on his reads has been good, and he’s felt engaged with the thread in a way that he wasn’t the last time I saw him wolfing (Looming Threat), which is a good look. Townlean.
Jake - Hot take, but Jake is probably town. The last few times I’ve played with scum!Jake (so, ToS FM, Candlelight, and the Cop 13er) he literally managed to get himself muted or suspended because of how toxic he was just because people were pressuring him. Here, he’s responded to pressure by actually playing the game and trying to solve. His interactions with Vulgard today were kind of ??? but I don’t actually think they’re wolfy, like, if we start from the perspective that Vul is town and Jake wants him to be the town leader because of the whole ‘Vul has bad reads’ meme but like, Jake’s one of the people Vul’s wolfreading IIRC, in W!Jake worlds Vul’s reads aren’t all that bad so this argument doesn’t hold.
Null/I’m confused
Emilia - I’m going to be honest I feel like people are clearing this slot based on meta when that meta doesn’t really apply anymore, Emilia definitely has some games where she struggles to exist as scum (looks at FoL 26) but it’s not a consistent tell the way it used to be. With 231 posts I should really have a stronger read on her but at this point the strongest thing I can say is ‘not cleared but also not actively scummy.’
Derps - I hate trying to read Derps, I felt like we were mindmelding a lot yesterday which is a decent look for him but I’m honestly not seeing anything super AI here. If it gets into the lategame you can basically read him on the quality of his reads, he compulsively busses his teammates for no reason so the worse his reads have been come lategame the more likely it is he’s a villager.
kat - This is another slot I’m conflicted on, my gut is telling me he’s town but my brain is telling me that the whole ‘claiming Mafia’ schtick is literally what he did the last time he was Mafia and I miscleared him there.
N.1/Wazza - I wasn’t sure about lynching this slot yesterday because lurker lynches are super easy to push and get us nothing but when he still wasn’t doing anything today the slot dropped a lot given N’s tendency to be a useless slanker as scum (hence my vote). However, Wazza’s early posting was pretty decent and he didn’t have any issues with any of the reactiontests on his slot (like, I wouldn’t expect scum!Wazza to be like ‘yeah I’m totally a 1-shot PGO’ but I’d expect him to take some time to figure out if that was what his previous slot was claiming, here he was just like ‘no I’m not’) which is enough to bump this slot back up to null.
Scum
Possessed - This slot’s early D1 kind of sucked but I want to believe that he wouldn’t ATE like that as scum 
His D2 has been a lot better – I specifically liked his vote analysis even if I disagree with some of it. …Although now that I’m actually looking at his Iso again he has almost no posts today, which isn’t a great look; it feels like he kind of vanished once he stopped being under pressure, which isn’t a great look.
PoisonedSquid - This slot has been getting a townpass for reasons that looking at her Iso are frankly mystifying. Like, I skimmed her Iso and 90 percent of it is just talking about the evolution point, which is apparently super important to her role for unspecified reasons. I’m glad I went to the trouble of actually making a readlist because until now I’d basically been listening to the consensus here but the consensus makes no sense . Half her reads are just light shading that she barely follows up on!! why are people townreading her!!
Marshal
Marshal - This slot was incredibly wolfy yesterday and I went into today kind of bitter that we didn’t manage to kill it yesterday like I was trying to after he spent basically the entire day openwolving. However, him intentionally losing the duel points to him being town – in worlds where him and Italy is TvS, I think W!Marshal would try to take Italy down with him even if it guaranteed his lynch, and in worlds where it would be SvS it would make more sense for him to at least pretend to try to win. which makes me sad because I really wanted to be right
So here’s the problem I’m having. The vast majority of my null-to-scumreads are basically consensus PoE. With a couple of exceptions most of my townreads townread each other. The problem is, the thread is not remotely acting like a world where the Mafia are mostly caught, like, no one is really fighting the consensus at all. Basically, either the Mafia has completely given up, or my reads are just wildly incorrect.
also I only have two proper scumreads but that’s a separate issue
When I actually look at my reads I feel like there’s a lot of generally strong players that I’m clearing for ‘is a basically competent player who is actually playing the game’ which is a really bad habit of mine. I think the interpretation of the gamestate that makes the most sense is the one where I’m wrong about at least one of them, maybe more.
I – feel like I should be ending this with ‘and here are the specific people I’ve miscleared, and why it’s them and not anyone else,’ like, ‘I’ve miscleared someone’ isn’t a super useful or productive thing to say, but also it’s 3:05 AM and I’m exhausted so I think I’m not going to do that tonight.
I disagree with Squid read, but I also don’t think that another invest with 1 point is gonna make a difference.
Like we could ask [cenosred] what does 1 point give, but ehhhh… I assume since they didn’t give result from last night, it’s gonna be something useless like motion detector or sth.