hey that’s what EVO said
your death wont prove that there is a deepwolf. The deaths we have are enough. Its a matter of finding them, so don’t frame your own lynch as an info lynch - EVO did that
I don’t know if Vader is scum or not to be honest. I townread him at first, but he hasn’t been nearly as active as he usually is when he’s town and when he’s town, he’s usually calling me out really quickly for being acum, even when I’m town. I feel if he was villager, he likely would’ve put more pressure on me with how wolfy I was acting. I’m not sure what to think of him to be honest. If I had to hazard a guess, I’d say that the most likely scenario is that he’s a neutral with their own agenda. Whether that agenda hurts or helps town, I have no idea.
im sorry but what
your conclusion is that he’s neither alignment and your not sure which way he is going
Leafia, I haven’t been as active as I usually have been because I now have a job. Activity is NAI. If anything, I would be spending more time if I was mafia.
Second, lol go look at my meta. I play the exact same way whether I’m town or scum, so meta is going to help or hurt me. Hell, some games I don’t even check my rolecard until right before Day 1 ends.
I don’t think not voting helps the town at all and I trust the people on his wagon. All I know is that I highly doubt both Gorda and Vader are town. I’m willing to change my vote if more evidence comes to light.
Here you go.
Stupid ass post to start it off
Hey, another stupid post
Oh, I already seem scummy so I can’t seem more scummy if I do my scummy stuff now 0_0
Literally saying that their intention was to go against the pack
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Okay, so you’re not caring about Day 1… Alright. But… you’re not caring about D2, either.
A very interesting defense for someone else.
“Oh just trust me bro”
Thanks for saying nothing. Hedgepost.
Then what was the point of your whole shebang D1?
All of this is hedge except for the PKR part.
Questionable TMI.
“I’m not taking the fault for this”
Preflipping 
and for a weird reason, too.
Back to the “Not my fault”
Time to make everyone distrust their towncore. Seems like a recipe for success, no?
speaking of which
Chloe/oB should have something soon
the problem im having is that I don’t that your conclusion as grounds for a vote(a pressure vote sure, not a legit lynch vote) and that I soft defended evo/cent and wouldn’t shoot cheese and quite frankly I think its more time I put my vote where my mouth is
Day One
Gorta’s first actual read is a gutread, which isn’t terrible, but doesn’t look good for him either. Gunna ignore this for now.
He goes on to make a readslist, but provides zero reasoning as to why he placed anyone where he did. This is the first of many posts that provide zero content, but makes it look like hes interacting with the thread and giving his analysis, when there is zero analysis to be seen.
Gorta has a lot of wishy-washy quotes on my slot (and I mean a lot). He never directly says that he scumreads or townreads me - and I am the only person he goes in depth on in terms of “reads.” Could be that he doesn’t want to pick a side, because depending on what I flip it could be a bad look for him. Possible TMI.
SO many posts about my slot, and none of them mention a scum or townread. He says that there is “a slight chance that Chloe could be villager” yet mentions multiple times that he doesn’t know my scumrange.
Goes from a slight chance of me being towny, to his gutread being that I’m LHF. Also once again mentions scumrange. It’s as if he can’t read people unless he uses meta. That or he doesn’t want to take a side, so he is using a weak argument to allow him to stay neutral.
Finally decides on his take on my slot, and votes me. Though he mentions that hes “not very confident in this,” which is a very easy way to get out of trouble when I flip V.
“I was right about you” - yet the only time he mentioned me being a villager is when he said “I think there is a slight chance that Chloe could be villager.”
Claims he was soft defending me, yet he specifically said “I am not defending Chloe” when Marshal mentioned we could be W/W. Ez cred. Good “defending” of the self-resolving person.
His next vote is a park on cheese, where he states that the slot is a null/wolf to him, but once again gives zero reasoning for this claim. The fact that cheese flipped town doesn’t help his case either. The people who suspected cheese of being scum at least had valid reason to do so.
This post is pretty much NAI imo. Simply including it as to not pick and choose quotes on the subject. It could be used as an excuse for him to provide no reasoning as scum or town.
Claims to have voted EVO because he wants to “actually vote today” - though he has placed two votes already. Also provides no reasoning for this, and has zero progression on the slot. It isn’t even in his SoD readslist. This is the final post of the day.
Day Two!
His first post of the day already irks me slightly. He asks Italy and Vul the question of why scum would clean Alice - but provides no analysis of his own.
Tiny bit rolefishy, but still a valid question. Not going to use this for my read too much. Just figured I would mention it.
Shoots cheese in his third post of the day. The only reasoning for it is a sheep on Alice’s reads, but he never mentions that he scumread cheese d1, or why he scumread/voted cheese.
Not even 10 minutes after using his ITA on cheese, he claims that Kyo could be scum. No reasoning, just gut. Says that he didn’t shoot Kyo because it was consensus to shoot cheese. This does add up with what he said about sheeping Alice’s shot list.
Gorta has zero progression on Seth, and never really provided any insight on the slot. Doesn’t even mention if he was going to shoot Seth because it was the d1 counterwagon. If he is scum, saying that he would shoot Seth could give him a lil’ credibility, but it doesn’t do much without analysis on Seth’s slot.
Finally (!) gives a reason for his view on my slot. Kinda shitty reasoning, but its reasoning nonetheless. He had over a day to think of something to say on why he “defended” my slot and he comes up with this. This could potentially be seen as villagery, as scum might have put more effort into making sure he had a legitimate reason for his view of my slot, and he would be more confident with it.
Questions Kyo’s slot again, using meta as reasoning, and asking if Kyo would bus his teammate. Scumrangescumrangescumrange. Then gives alright reasoning for changing his thoughts on Kyo - as he doesn’t believe Kyo would shoot his scumbuddy there.
I actually like this thought. However, Arete did mention it in the same minute. I’m unsure if this was a mindmeld or if he said this for credibility after Arete said it. I’m going to assume it was a mindmeld.
He never once mentioned that he could see cheese flipping town. He voted cheese d1 saying “I think Cloned is a very null spot and a possible wolf” then shot cheese d2 for being in Alice’s shot-list. This is incredibly wishy-washy.
This entire paragraph basically boils down to the fact that he is a gutreader, but decided to sheep Alice for both the vote and the shotlist. This is his reasoning for voting EVO, which he didn’t give d1. It’s an easy excuse imo.
Okay this might be a language barrier thing, so I’m not going to focus on it that much - and its a really stupid argument, but I still wanna bring it up lol. But he says “I think you might be the wolf.” Hes still not confident even when he’s one of the main wagons. The wolf, means that there is a wolf between the two of them, whereas a wolf means they they could both be town. He basically said that he thinks the wolf out of them is Vader. Why can’t he just be confident and say “the wolf out of both of us is you.”
His ISO on Leafia
An entire ISO and there are 4 posts of analysis. This entire ISO is just information.
He also never provided the other 3 ISO reads lol.
In conclusion
After an analysis of gorta’s ISO I seriously think this could flip wolf. He has posted a mere 100 times, and almost none of these posts contain real content. It’s almost as if he posts things just to make it seem like hes contributing to the discussion, when all he posts are reads without reasoning, and information without analysis. He is wishy-washy on every slot he has had a “read” on and has never directly said that he thinks someone is exactly town, or exactly scum. He lacks confidence in every read he gives, and never “picks a side.”
If this slot flips V I will be incredibly upset, as nothing he has done has been pro-town as he hasn’t contributed a single useful thing. He sheeps others and posts gut-reads every so often. He needs to learn to think for himself and have confidence in his reads, as well as providing actual reasoning.
/vote gorta @DatBird
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Okay can you please give reasoning for your votes
Every vote I’ve seen from you has been a sheep immediately after someone gave their own reasoning
Agreeing with everyone might make them like you but it doesnt make you town
Cheddar claimed a redcheck
and Parmesan saw Gouda visit Mozzarella who died last night
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I’ve been sanding wood planks all day with one of those sander power tools that vibrates a lot
I currently have numb hands
Writing that entire wallpost was fucking weird
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from yours truly, with implicit bias because Im starting to like vader
yep, not understanding threadspewing, not scummy though
agreed
he explains this and quite frankly it makes sense - its effectively the idea of a CW just on a larger scale - trying to split the players
Arete/Vul the whole way
that’s not a hedge, but it is saying next to nothing
he said that d1
yep it was an absolutely terrible readslist but its not hedge its just a lot of obvious things
agreed
agreed
yep, but the reasoning is there
it wasn’t his fault
it was Chloe’s shot
who did vader shoot?( I genuinely forgot)
EVO and Cent did the same and I did d1 too