[SFM] Newbie-Friendly Pokèmon 9er - Town Win

i mean as much as gorta fucked up the previous day with the vote-change, i can’t help but find a cop saying someone else is mafia to be a more pressing issue

Oh right, Cloned had already asked me why I was scum. For some reason I thought that was after you wrote that, whoops.

well yeah, if it weren’t for that whole ordeal then both you and clone would have been lower on my scumlist for obvious reasons

Finally done reading, that took a while

I still think that Kiro or Gorta are a wolf, mainly because Kiros TP claim seems off to me. Like other people said, after Kiro learned there was a tracker in the game he wanted to have an excuse for night actions, so he claimed TP. I also think Gorta is wolf for a lot of the reasons Appel said above, and the fact they voted Silviu even though they were his highest town read.

Do you think Kiro and Gorta could be w/w?

I think its possible, they haven’t been pushing eachother that much and I don’t trust either of them. I think it’s also possible that Gorta may have made a misplay, but I feel confident on my scumread with Kiro. Those 2 are the people I’m most willing to vote rn, but that will probably change overtime

Worse, may I ask why you haven’t commented at all about my scumreading on you? I’m curious whether you’re concerned about it or not because you haven’t jumped to defend yourself at all, and you don’t seem to be worried about it.

You’re also not pushing me as scum for accusing you of being scum.

I still think that cloned is a mafia and that we should have voted for yesterday.
But apparently everyone believes him. Now that he says he’s not really a police officer …
I didn’t understand why he said Wing was a suspect. I do not understand why now it says that it is town protector. I feel like you want to vote for me to have a clear path at night. But … who is your partner?

No idea. I think wind is a tracker because it could see cloned. And it’s impossible for both of them to be scum. @WindwardAway … what tactic are you thinking of so you can check me 100% at night?

The more I think about it, the less probable it seems that there would be 3 town PRs of any kind .-. If we had a larger player count with 3 mafia it might make sense, but with 7 town and 2 mafia it’s very unlikely.

To answer Kiro’s question, I was thinking that if none of us 3 PR claims are lynched, I would have Cloned guard me and Kiro heal Cloned.
If Cloned or I die, it would be a clear signal that one of us is a wolf.
If none of us die but someone else does, it would likely mean that one of us is a wolf or else that there is a wolf who is a strategic player among the other 5.
If nobody dies, it would confirm the 3 of us.

Let me know if you think this logic is sloppy, or if there’s a reason you can think of that it wouldn’t work. The reason I think it would work is because protectives are a priority target for mafia, and they can’t kill an outed PR without getting rid of the protectives first, so I would bet that either Kiro or Cloned would be targeted before me. Cloned dies if his target is attacked, so he already has twice the chance of dying if he protects me and thus he has twice the likelihood to flip if he’s real town. Nobody dies if Kiro’s target is attacked, which would prove the existence of a doctor, but if Kiro dies we’ll see from his flip anyway.

The one catch in the logic is if I’m the scum. If Kiro dies, it could still be Cloned or me, but then we would know for sure if Kiro is a doctor as well. But if I’m scum, I could try to kill either of you with basically the same result as if it were one of the other 5, because I’d be at the bottom of the protection chain. The only thing I have going for me right now is that I’m proven as a tracker, but it’s up to you guys to determine if you believe me when I say I’m a town tracker.

Well I believe your claim? I’m not gonna push you as scum when I think that you’re def town lol.

Also: the reason I think the night test would work is because if Cloned dies either from protecting me or being attacked, we would know for a fact that Kiro is not a doctor.

Could you elaborate on why you think I’m definitely town? Not everyone has cleared me as town, and I think right now you and Kiro are the only two who have said you’re sure I’m town.

I thought cloned confirmed your tracker thing? Wouldnt that mean you have to be town?

Mafia trackers exist

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^ Exactly. A tracker can be either town or scum, with no difference in ability.

i.e., I am a confirmed tracker, but by no means am I confirmed town right now.

Tentative theory that I want opinions on:

Kiro and Worse are w/w because both of them are pretty confident I’m town but for no proven reason.

clearly false because that means gorta isn’t a wolf