Ah I see, my reasoning on Kiro yesterday was that I don’t think there can be 2 protective power roles. It seems kind of broken from a design standpoint
It wouldn’t matter whether the mafia attacked Cloned directly, or me, because Cloned would have died either way. But then you went and also claimed to be on me, which was exactly what we both told you not to do if you were real town, because it would be to the town’s advantage to have no night deaths. Mafia had to have known you weren’t going to heal Cloned in order to know that they’d make a successful night kill, meaning that you can’t possibly be town.
You’re right about that.
Yeah, those are also the two scumteams I’d consider valid at this point.
It literally would have been better to be on anyone else. If cloned wasn’t on wind we wouldve known he was scum immediately
Like I don’t think the hosts would design a 9 player game with 2 protective town roles, which is why I wouldn’t have minded Kiro dying yerterday
Actually, yeah, there could be 2 protective town PRs, but that would mean the mafia have a vigilante or arsonist, and in such a small game we’d be absolutely screwed lol. This isn’t a bastard game.
That was precisely the point. I’m a prime target for being a PR and for talking too much so if Cloned were mafia, I would have pretty much been guaranteed to die at the expense of bussing Cloned.
If no one had died, it would be confirmed and no one would have died. So there would be 2 confirmed. But unfortunately I did not follow the plan. I don’t know if the mafia took the risk of killing cloned, intuiting that if I don’t heal it they could win this very easily
Anyway … My fault I guess. I never thought cloned was town
anyway i gotta go sleep
it makes more sense for it to be ybw and kiro socially
but as you say idk how likely it is for 2 newbie scum
Heres what I think happened
Kiro & his other maf thought that attacking cloned was his only option, he could just claim to be on arctic and claim he thought maf would think he was on cloned and attack arctic. Wind then asks Kiro for a claim on who he was on last night. Kiro ended up attacking wind (for some reason) and also ended up killing Cloned instead. Kiro thought that Wind would reveal the tracker results, so he wouldnt be able to lie about who he was on. He panicked, and said he was on wind. Wind then reveals that he was bluffing, putting Kiro in a tight spot.
from your post the only ‘other maf’ could be gorta from your POV
but you didn’t say gorta
wonder why?
Fair point, but we said we wouldn’t exe a PR and Appel got voted out instead, so RIP.
No. If the mafia didn’t know what you were or who you would heal, they would’ve killed a VT because it would make all 3 of the PRs look sus and increase their odds of winning by mislynching a town PR instead. Scum has essentially outed you by killing Cloned.
Very good reasoning here. That was the point of forcing Kiro to out who he was on, and that was the point of my not promising that I wouldn’t track a PR to bluff.
I think its possible it could also be you tbh. Wind said it was unlikely, but I would say its more possible than likely. i do think its gorta over you, ftr
your story poses both me and wind as town yet you refer to the second mafia as ‘other mafia’ rather than simply gorta because that’s the only person it can be from the logic of this post
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I think if we want something to analyze constructively, I’d like Arctic/Gorta/Worse to post reads on each other sometime before we lynch. I want your reasoning on why you think each other could/couldn’t be scum.
but from your story of what you think may have happened this is impossible, so why refer to the second mafia as ‘other mafia’ rather than just gorta?
I will update my list later
I dont think Arctic is scum, but I don’t have a townread on him. You know what I mean?
will do
He could claim to be on his maf brother. It would make sense.