[SFM] Newbie-Friendly Pokèmon 9er - Town Win

most of us here are notorious for bad town plays
Newbies are expected to be even worse

I have the same take, but the remaining scum is specifically YoubutWorse imo.

I was thinking kiro specifically
mainly because i have a few posts from worse i have bookmarked that i havent read yet

Welp looks like appel aint showing up

Im turning in for the night - you two should as well

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Oh right, I don’t honestly know how to tell if Kiro is lying or not.

Appel, we need you!

Good night!

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I think Appel/Kiro is a decent possibility here

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I will get more into it tomorrow

Actually, yeah. Appel would be capable of guiding Kiro so if Kiro is scum, that really wouldn’t surprise me. I could see Appel as wolf with almost anyone, but I can’t see Kiro paired with most of you.

My proposition was to kill gorta, confirm appel’s alignment with that, and nightaction within the remaining three

Then gorta’s response made me doubt myself

Good night peoples

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Until Gorta said his part, I was thinking to lynch either Worse or Appel depending on what they both had to say once they were online again, and then let the three of us PR claims resolve it with night actions. But now I’m not so sure, so I’ll sleep on it and see if we have some new input when I wake up.

Good night for real this time!

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Well … I think cloned is lying to all of us. But he does it well.
I don’t think we are 3 power towns because that would be unbalanced.
I don’t have many games here but I understand that it is very unlikely.
I still think cloned is lying. Even more so when now he changed his role.
He said something interesting that I never thought of.

Cloned said that I could be a mob and that I claim to be a doc to have an excuse to visit other people.
I don’t understand that strategy. I consider that cloned is making a 500,000 iq play and that cloned wants to vote for me because he doesn’t want me to do my night work.
I think the other mob is gorta right now because of what they said.

Somehow he’s also blaming me. cloned must be a no-kill mafia role and visited wind and cloned gained his trust from what i see i think right now after letting a little time go by. Cloned and gorta will vote for me. Or maybe they want to kill appel first. It is very strange what I am feeling.
Why cloned and gorta show a bit of rivalry? I feel like it’s for the case that wind didn’t trust cloned.
Then gorta could kill the cloned without any problem so that others do not suspect him.
Someone tell me if I’m okay? Or did my mind explode?

Cloned has a lot of experience. I never thought what he says (That of the strategy where I lie), I think he is the only one here capable of fooling us all. He talks a lot and is doing his job well … At times I think he is also town xD. I think cloned is mafia and doesn’t want to kill me right away for some reason. He wants us to kill the wrong person and maybe the mafia is thinking of leaving me alive and then incriminating me if I miss my target.

I really doubt what will happen tomorrow but I want to focus on the present. I’m going to see what the true intentions of cloned are … If he really thinks I’m lying … Why the hell does he vote for gorta? I think they must be mafia

I hope I don’t fall asleep … Today is the most important day from my point of view. The other players are very dull … We need them. What do you think of me, cloned and gorta?

people need to not disregard the possibility of cloned being a mafia PR

anyway the main thing i picked up on from reading all this

if gorta was scum and knew cloned was doing an RT on windward, why would he push for a vote between those two if he knew neither was going to be lynched once clone came clean? it would make more sense for the mafia to be more reserved in that situation so as not to look suspicious once clone outted it was fake

unless, however, there really is a framer who was on windward and the mafia thought cloned would check them but it turned out cloned was protective. this would mean that mafia would likely push for a vote between these two

however this still doesn’t make sense with gorta being mafia, because as windward said he thought cloned was protective, so why would he frame windward instead of cloned?

I’m here now. Bleh.

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everyone is waiting in anticipation

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I will keep up the suspense for a while. I’m writing notes as I’m catching up, so even my pfp doesn’t pop up, you bet I’m making a huge wallpost here.

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I’m not discounting the possibility of either Kiro or Cloned being scum. The thing is that Cloned would be making a very risky play by changing his claim from “self-resolving PR” to alignment cop to bodyguard. Kiro has also changed his claim from vanilla to doctor, but it’s less risky to claim that he lied about being vanilla than it is to change from one type of PR to another.

That being said, they’ve both managed to confuse everyone and I’m currently the only PR who hasn’t changed my claim (it would honestly be dumb for me to even try, since I’m a tracker and my results depend on another person, and I saw Cloned on me so if I were scum, Cloned would be forced to cover for me and also automatically be scum by that logic).

For that matter, I’d like to ask if anyone still has a scumread on me, and if you do, do you also have a scumread on Cloned? I want to hear people’s honest opinions on this because I haven’t seen anyone mention it, and I’m curious as to why.

i doubt you are mafia unless there’s another investigative PR claim. if there is then there’s no reason you can’t be mafia tracker. i remember you saying mafia tracker would be useless in this setup, but that’s not true - it can still find protective PRs before they out

as for cloned, atm i still think he could be scum especially with another PR protective claim (kiro) although i think it’s more likely that kiro, or neither of them are scum

then again what is the likelihood that we have 2 protective PRs?

I was also wondering about the likelihood of 2 protective PRs. If we really do have 2 protectives, the mafia definitely has a PR (and probably not a framer at that, but possibly a role cop).