[SFM] Newbie-Friendly Pokèmon 9er - Town Win

[an_gorta_pratai]

Like I won’t vote on Silviu

[YoubutWorse]

if we know wind isnt a wolf, does that mean we can narrow it down to those 2? or should we open up or suspects because a few people pushed on wind, including me

[an_gorta_pratai]

Wind is apparently claiming PR role and I don’t know about cheese

[an_gorta_pratai]

narrowing a pool of suspects is great

[YoubutWorse]

@min

I feel like wind has some town to them mostly because I have a feeling they followed you the same way I did, the only difference was they still scumread silv I’m pretty sure and hey that’s just her opinion even if in the end it’s not the best most of the people here are noobs it’s better to have bad reads compared to barely putting anything out

Well for starters, I 100% dont think it’s min because they’ve been supporting wind for a while, even after wind was moved to the highest sus

[WindwardAway]

I’m not claiming a PR, but I’m claiming not VT.

[clonedcheese]

what ze fuck

[an_gorta_pratai]

@clonedcheese why Silviu? I am 90% sure Silviu is a towny based on tone and I don’t think newb scum can fake tone this well

[clonedcheese]

read posts lol

[Appelsiini]

Sleepy Appel. Slow. Gonna go to sleep soon.

I still think Windward is town.
Granted, it’s not as strong of a townread as before, but I’m still leaning town, mostly based on their tone. After rereading their ISO, I can see wolf-equity there, but overall I think they’re a bad townie; There are some things that support this.

The first reason being that Windward has seemed to be very comfortable being pressured, and spends more time explaining herself rather than arguing why she’s towny, letting others decide it and not freezing up like newb wolves usually do. I think… this is a very obvious tell for people who play ToL etc.
I can get into their thought process with posts like this:

@WindwardAway

Well, outright fishing for answers would seem too obvious, wouldn’t it? Plus it’s the start of the game, so you wouldn’t really want to throw so much suspicion on yourself this early (although I guess at least two of us decided you’re sus lol).

I think bringing good points to the conversation can be advantageous for either side, but you’re specifically countering points and not opening questions as conversation starters the way Min is. (But if Min flips mafia and you don’t, I’ll eat my words.)

Right now you’re just somewhat calmly asking for my reasoning to vote you as opposed to hard defending yourself like “No, I’m definitely not suspicious at this point because _____.” It’s more like you’re asking to be given reasons you could think of a counter to, as opposed to being able to outright claim innocence. Maybe I’m reading too much into it but that’s my take.

@WindwardAway

I can at least do my part to explain why I was so quick to hop on. When Appelsiini was quick to vote up Silviu, I hopped on because Silviu was already the first suspicion I had, for the reasons I explained before Silviu gave his defense. I didn’t vote earlier because I thought it might be too early to vote, since it’s my first game and I don’t really know when people typically start throwing accusations and voting.

That being said, I’m not inviting quite yet. I want to see how the day goes for a bit longer before I change my mind.

Like… sure. I can buy this. This is possible – we are talking about newbies, after all.

They also townread Arctic’s aggressiveness as they’re pushing her, which I find towny, unless their whole plan at this moment is to pocket others: which isn’t really it, since they’re already going against people by holding onto their scumread even though I think the reasons for it aren’t the greatest.

You can’t expect new people to always know where to look, and I can already understand their thought process, so that’s why I’m not holding them to such a high standard. Though I would like to hear their current opinion on Silviu.

My read can basically be summed up with “they’re not very good yet, but their tone screams town.”

[Appelsiini]

@an_gorta_pratai

@clonedcheese why Silviu? I am 90% sure Silviu is a towny based on tone and I don’t think newb scum can fake tone this well

Did you just put my 30-minute wallpost into two sentences right before I posted it
Gorta, are you town after all
I like your reads

[an_gorta_pratai]

PR can stand for “power role”

[an_gorta_pratai]

did you just say you weren’t VT to avoid a lynch?

[Appelsiini]

I don’t know if I have the energy to fully respond to Cloned’s wallpost about me/Silviu, but I’m just going to say: @clonedcheese have you ever seen me be the one to pressure my teammate, especially that early? You should know I often avoid interacting with them at all as a wolf.
I could explain what went through my mind with the Silviu read but I’m quite literally too tired to remember

[WindwardAway]

Wait, is power role anything that isn’t vanilla? I thought power role was specifically something like ToL prince…?

[Appelsiini]

No. As Arete stated in the OP, everything included in the list are considered “normal roles”

[clonedcheese]

@Appelsiini

@clonedcheese have you ever seen me be the one to pressure my teammate, especially that early? You should know I often avoid interacting with them at all as a wolf.

ToS2 to me and Magnus
SFV to one of me/Italy

especially SFV where you used it for towncred

[an_gorta_pratai]

A power role is typically anything that has power of some kind.

@Appelsiini

No. As Arete stated in the OP, everything included in the list are considered “normal roles”

I don’t think this is role madness though

[Appelsiini]

@clonedcheese

ToS2 to me and Magnus

I was… never in that game? confusion

SFV is a nice reference, but that was my third game ever, when my playstyle was still forming. Corrupted Votes, Watch Your Mouth and FoL29 are good examples of my playstyle now.

[WindwardAway]

Uh, I’m not really sure what that means, but I have a role that’s obviously on Arete’s list and it’s not vanilla? Lol