I think Worse is the least likely candidate to flip as a mislynch, if I’m being honest. It’s either a 50/50 between Appel and Gorta, or we’re actually looking at two townies sussing each other. Also, if Worse flips scum then imo neither Gorta nor Kiro is scum.
But I want Worse to weigh in here, with his own words, and without piggybacking on others’ opinions.
the only time he has done this was when he had a read on gorta d1 which he hardly pursued
That’s exactly my point. I want him to speak up and give us a solid reason why we shouldn’t be scumreading him.
It could be that I am paranoid after seeing what Appel can do as scum first hand and I know that she could mess a group of newbies up big time. That’s what scares me here and in the past I have read people based on how they read my slot. Throwing shade on my slot + switching their read on me in the span of minutes concerns me.
I am very interested in that. But I consider that we have little time left and I hope that the other players do not disconnect
i want this to be a bit more organised than last time
based on everything so far, please tell me who everyone would vote right now if the EoD were right now
Cloned?
I’m sorry but I keep thinking about it
This was Day 1, and you barely had content. I was trying to get some kind of a read on you and playing around with the idea of you being town, even though I had stated my reasons for thinking you were wolfy. You… should have read that? Why don’t you have any comments about my reasoning?
There was a reason you 4 were all lumped together, my Day 1 was more about having strong townreads rather than having strong scumreads. Why is your whole opinion on me based around how I think of you, and not how I have handled other slots as well? (Silviu, Min, Kiro etc.)
A readlist does not clear you. You’re smarter than this.
I went to sleep, and then made my case on you. What did you expect?
That is, quite literally, what you have been doing. I simply called you out on it, which was also an attempt to prevent you from doing that, but that didn’t stop you from blaming your vote on Cloned anyway.
How is this shading when that is literally what you were trying to do? This was right after I made my case on you, and we were right in the middle of discussing your slot.
How does me calling you out count as shading?
I was being open-minded and considering the possibility, because I can’t see who would be your scummate. I literally explain it in that very post. It’s like you’re unable to comprehend anything that doesn’t fit your worldview.
You’re just throwing a bunch of one-liners. You’re not explaining why any of it is scummy, you’re just narrating my actions and making them as suspicious as possible through either agenta-pushing or confbias.
I was putting pressure on Wind in the first one.
I have literally townread Cloned the entire game, and argued why I think they’re town. And this is all you have? You’re saying I was trying to shade Cloned here because of a single remark I never bothered to expand on?
I’m sorry, but your argument is weak.
You only picked out everything that’s suspicious, and the most you could throw at me were one-liners narrating my actions as subjectively as possible, without even trying to look at why I could have this thought process as town.
@an_gorta_pratai be honest. Do you seriously, actually believe in your own read?
Oh yeah, and here’s something that might actually convince you.
If you read WyM wolfchat, you would see that I was planning to leave both Vul and Kat alive for the final day because I liked them both.
I like Min. Therefore I would never kill them first.
I don’t really know if it’s angleshooty to talk about this, but most of my nightkills are based on how much I like someone. I was against killing Dat because I felt bad for them. I left Arete alive in corrupted votes because they were the only one trying and I wanted to face them head on.
You now know my secret, I have to change my meta after this.
The reason is that in the past I have caught wolves over how they handled my slot. I have even done this with people I have never played with before. To keep saying I’m town then scum is sus from my point of view.
You ask for my readlist, despite me having made a complete readlist by that point. It’s like you wanted to make me look like I had no readlist (like I said I would have). It was greatly flawed, but I had a list.
You were ignoring posts that contradicted some of your points against me. I never said we should 100% vote in the wind/cloned thing, but I did say we should look into it. You made it sound like I wanted them dead right away.
This in itself is shading because it aims to discredit my read on you.
I am paranoid at times, but I have decent reads and I don’t think I am wrong here. From my point of view it looks like you are trying to pocket me. In the past I have been pocketed by scum who have buddied up with me, so I hope you can see why I am paranoid of someone suddenly saying “oh yeah, this guy could be a bad towny”
My goal is to find the posts that make me suspect you and explain why I think said thing is scummy. That’s what I did here.
It looks like you were trying to shade wind
I never said you were shading cloned, I was implying that you subtly started that fight
Yes, why would I keep it up if it’s not gaining any steam if I didn’t believe in this read.
For now Appel is my biggest scum read, but I suppose I should review other things as well. Like I want Appel out first because Appel as scum is even more dangerous than most of the other players alive, but I’ll check out the others again. I need to do that anyway
I meant an ordered readlist, the reads you gave really weren’t that impressive.
I literally talked about this in my wallpost. Go read it.
No, it’s meant to call out your shading. By your logic, I could say that you talking about me shading you is also shading, because it’s just an endless loop of hypocrisy. Can’t you see that?
You being paranoid is, frankly speaking, not my problem. You acknowledge it’s paranoia, now detach yourself from it and figure out whether it makes sense from a town perspective or not.
Yes, and if you’re town, you’re only digging yourself deeper into the confbias by completely ignoring everything else.
I literally argued that Cloned/Wind are both town. This argument makes zero sense.
| Vote Target | Voted by | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| an_gorta_pratai | clonedcheese | 1/4 |
| Not voting | ArcticXI, WindwardAway, YouButWorse, an_gorta_pratai, Appelsini, Kiro | 6 |
Does it also appear to everyone else that our exe should be in {gorta, appel}
I’m down for voting up Appel. You can call my reasoning weak, but I really do think Appel is evil here.
