SFoL 38 - Game Over - Even death may die

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#162

What do you think now? Typically a lot of BD will be bled in this way if he fulfills his win condition. He can either play as a quite regular survivor or if the Therapist dies early can try for the grand play.

#163

The Nightmare :shield:

Abyss Social

Day Ability:Illusion - Target will appear as chosen class to investigators, can target self and unseen.( 3 uses)

Night Ability 1: Intercept - Select two targets, if anyone targets your first target they will receive feedback as if they targeted the second.

Night Ability 2 : Besmirch - Make a player show up as a certain class if executed tomorrow, can target unseen( 2 use)

alright class just donā€™t know what their pre-converted class should be

#164

Make it abyss theme though, there arenā€™t unseen here

#165

I see no bleeds?

#166

hmm?

#167

but then he literally lost, he doesnā€™t deserve to cause chaos if he lost

It should do A LOT of damage if he wins

#168

No he will only use that ability to fulfill his win condition. He causes chaos by regular redirection and fearing for the evil faction.

#169

But he lost if he didnā€™t meet his win condition.

#170

Thatā€™s why he shouldnā€™t use it prior of course.

#171

but it causes zero chaos if he does win while it causes a lot of chaos if he doesnā€™t

It should be the exact opposite

It should punish people for letting him win and be a Big explosion (figuratively)

#172

On average he might bleed like 3 or 4 people with that ability while killing and occupying another target.

Itā€™s exactly the reverse of what youā€™re saying. If he does not win through that ability, he does not do too much aside from classic redirection. If he does win through that ability he bleeds several people.

#173

also lul him gamethrowing using it N1 and everyone starts bleeding

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#174

A fool execution is also not that immensely punishing. I canā€™t make it too big or it will turn into a find the Haunt game, which it shouldnā€™t be.

#175

but he canā€™t bleed people if he won, while he can if he lost

#176

Read it againā€¦ Everyone who was not feared by your abilities starts bleeding. He bleeds everyone that the Abyss has feared.

#177

Tbh I still donā€™t think thatā€™s punishing enough :thinking:

A little more?

#178

He is already punishing in redirecting every night. I could make the bleed work in one night, but I donā€™t think he needs more. Just compare it to Foolā€™s execution.

#179

What about this? A passive that as long as he is alive, feared players are penalized in some way? Like unable to use their action or having a cooldown on their action or taking extra usages away from abilities.

This is a bit similar to the Warlock, but itā€™s not really helping the Hauntā€™s win condition.

#180

Way too much.

Cool downs on abilities basically make games way less enjoyable for people (when it was unlimited) kinda like when I was modblocksd in eevees game instead of warned

#181

I would nerf the rest to fit this obviously.