[SFoL] 52 Clash Of Cults - The Blue Dragon are Victorious!

[Arete]

If we’re bountying Kai, I think it’s optimal not to check him so we have a better chance of catching the convert? I could be wrong, someone can fact-check me on this.

[Arete]

(Also, calling out your specific checks in the thread is probably not a great idea, just because if we’re wrong about who the cult is, or wrong about the faction of the king, it’s basically saying ‘hey ritualists/seekers, this is who you frame.’)

[Arete]

I’m going to go to sleep, see you all in the morning.

Don’t quicklynch anyone, we have a couple days to figure this out.

[Luxy]

@Arete

So, Corax cult that are currently alive, assuming Wazza really was CL:

• Starting second Corax cultist.
• N2 convert (I’m assuming they got one, a N3 erad with no N2 convert would’ve been really questionable).
• N4 convert (may or may not exist).

I’m not sure that there’s any good way right now to figure out who the N4 convert is. Hja was greenchecked N3 and Magnus was greenchecked N4 (and probably killed Wazza), so neither of them can be the starting second cultist or N2 convert unless there’s another secret ritualist running around messing things up or Ozz is Cult. Luxy can probably prove themself as mechanically not starting Corax by outing links, I think Corax Apostle only gets like three? And Tele is mechconfirmed not starting but again could be the N2 convert.

More complicated dependencies: Tele gossipped a check by Italy yesterday, but Seeker does still have the power to do investigative checks; I’m nevertheless pretty sure that Italy is town here, he’s been acting like obvious newbtown and I don’t think he’s a likely convert target except possibly last night, and also using Corax!seeker abilities on Derps would be kind of weird.

Am I missing anything? I probably am, but.

There were an awful lot of people confirmed as not Corax CL , but that’s no longer something that matters, assuming our theory was correct.

N1: Myself - Vulgard
N2: Vulgard - Tele
N3: Vulgard - Marshal
N4: Vulgard - Italy

[Luxy]

@Teleology

Jgo and I are both town. I asked dead chat and they agreed that I should heal him since he is basically confirmed town with Derps flipping Mithras and he can’t be scum team with Derps since Mithras cult is dead. I have some other info that I can share when I get home, but it’s copied and pasted on a different device. It wouldn’t be smart to convert me either because I basically provide no utility. The smart move for corax cult would be to convert a drunk or someone that has been labeled as confirmed town for a while. People have assumed that I was converted since like N2 or N3… yeah I’m still Priest.

If you had let Jgoes die, we would be able to confidently lynch soul.

[Soulshade55r]

Not really

[Soulshade55r]

I honestly don’t think Kai is cult and your going to get killed tonight if your bd good plan but it epic fails but lynch me anyway.

[Soulshade55r]

Has italy even said something yet

[Luxy]

@Teleology

Luxy told me yesterday that I should be careful about clearing people based on my expectations, and I took that to heart.

Are you using me as a scapegoat to push a mislynch?

I don’t really know what to think at this point.

[Soulshade55r]

I was wanting to get kai or jake at this point it doesn’t matter if I hammered it, we had like a hour left what do you want me to do be scared of voting?

[Luxy]

@Ozzkozz

If I was cult, don’t you think I’d have an actual find by now?

Bad defence

[Soulshade55r]

@Arete when I flip if your drunk can you do me a favour and HH Ozz because they are scum.

[Luxy]

@Arete

The problem is that your greenchecks clear most of the court, and what’s left is a PoE with a handful of people in it, if that makes sense. Also, a real Paladin would almost certainly have hit a Cultist at some point, I think. Let me go do some math.

Italy has found a cult too, meaning that Ozz is likely to be the fake paladin if one is scum and one is town.

[Soulshade55r]

Also I’d keep votes 4 or under on anyone not just me cult can quick hammer at this point

[Luxy]

@Vulgard

Among those:

Luxy only voted early once. Doesn’t count since he only could’ve been converted N4.

Also considering I led the CFD onto Alice, I would be voting her

[Vulgard]

True. I was looking at the VCA through patterns only.

[Vulgard]

Like I said I don’t think there’s any possibility of scum!Luxy barring N4 conversion and even then, Luxy is a good target for Hja who is a claimed CW

[Teleology]

@Luxy

If you had let Jgoes die, we would be able to confidently lynch soul.

Strongly disagree. Jgo is a strong town read of mine after Derp’s flip. If I had let him die town would be significantly worse off.

@Luxy

Are you using me as a scapegoat to push a mislynch?

I don’t really know what to think at this point.

No, I just liked what you said because I tend to give people too much credit. Despite my rational side telling myself “no way they did this, it’s too BigBrain” someone convinces me that they could’ve done it

[Luxy]

I guess we saw that with alice lol

[Ozzkozz]

But really though? Do you actually think a fake paladin wouldn’t try to mislynch people? I’d be playing as the most passive cult if I was a fake pally claim.