its a pot shot at myself dw
Iām just going to tell you that you are right now.
You should be flattered, I think that you are such a good player that you are able to formulate arguments with prestine format and you are able to make your words sound incredibly nice. Your only problem is that you lack the logic behind your words. If you can do that you will be the greatest scum alive.
thats because i am secretly amercias player and my goal d1 was to get in a showmance
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summon an inactive person and the start a ritual that ends up with them dying
edit: then
and then
and most of the other posts are either fluff or IIoA
and thereās this
so are you joining the push or not
Iāve changed my mind, italy is scummy as hell
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amercia was gracious enough to let me decide my task
my task is to snipe some cultists
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KyoDaz
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/226?u=alice
First ping for me from Kyo. Looks to be potentially BD here as unlike their game in RRM theyāre now asking questions in order to get to reads while in that match they pretty much just gave generic reads without much forethought. Overall itās a good sign being that this looks to be more real solving and less posturing.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/505?u=alice
Kind of just liking Kyo more and more here, tbh. Donāt think heād say this were he a Cultist.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/650?u=alice
Meh, Kyo not interacting with Vulgard looks terrible. Kind of reconsidering my earlier read on them.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/689
ā¦what? I kind of agree with the scumlean on Jgo being that he has tinges of scum going UTR, but Iād like for him to go more in-depth for this. Meh, Kyoās kind of getting into peek-worth level territory as of now as Iām getting way too mixed signals from them and if they remain like this then itād be impossible to sort them out.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/699?u=alice
ATP I kind of am back to Kyo being a BD playing poorly with this senseless idea of giving d1 reads being bad. The focus on his ideas rather than himself usually comes from town.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/721?u=alice
ā¦and Iām back to āpeek Kyo ffs.ā
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/738?u=alice
Fire and decisiveness in this posts reminds me more of his EFoL game where he was SRāing SogMan rather than his scum game in RRM. Iām back at him being just town rn.
DatBird
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/236?u=alice
Slight townping here from Dat, looks to be more village paranoia here and him being on guard rather than shading.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/600?u=alice
Shrug. DatBirdās kind of dipping since then, tbfh.
Vulgard
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/193?u=alice
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/248?u=alice
Havenāt played with Vulgard in a long-ass while, but I think joking about reads is probably a good sign considering this reminds me more of them in RM rather than FEFM.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/308?u=alice
Tone-wise Vulgard doesnāt look like they rolled Cult otherwise I wouldnāt imagine that theyād be so relaxed, but content-wise, ehhhhā¦
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/383?u=alice
Hmm, I really want follow-up from Vulgard from this. I think I can probably shake out the most info from both them and Arete
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/582?u=alice
Shrug, donāt think Kyoās frozen here, tbh.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/679?u=alice
Really liking Vulgard rn as they actually give a shit regarding solving and are pursuing Kyo. Donāt think Vulgard acts like this regarding their reads a wolf from what I remember from FEFM where they were very non-confrontational. Would probs put them as the highest townlean ATP.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/696?u=alice
Yeah, train of thought here was quite villagery. I donāt often see scum trying to re-evaluate themselves after making such dire pushes, or even making such pushes in the first place.
AreteSlashStars
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/252?u=alice
Overall entrances looks to be a positive when compared to SFoL51. Arete doesnāt seem to be tryharding as hard as in that match and seems to be taking a natural pace.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/375
Possibly another positive for Arete as they seem to have no idea about Ozzās alignment here being that they look to be confused at what the hell heās doing rather than act opportunistically.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/471
Looks to be a natural train of thought here.
Teleology
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/271?u=alice
Probs the first scum ping I got here. Not liking how they are over-explaining themselves in this case, while them talking about the king looks way too much like the reasonable wolf archetype.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/279?u=alice
Absolutely hating this hedge, tbh. Though, not really that strong of a read as the Kingās a traitor if W, so hedging here isnāt as a major wolftell as tele would have hedged onto another player.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/303
Still not liking Tele. Why not further probe into Jake rather than assume something like this? The lack of concern over Jakeās alignment isā¦ concerning.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/311?u=alice
Really disliking how Tele has just assumed Jakeās alignment so easily yet again.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/317
Progression looks iffy as hell here.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/969?u=alice
The hedging here is insane, though. Really not liking Teleās entire ISO rn as they were far more decisive in every game Iāve seen them in.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/974?u=alice
Okay, why did the thoughts of Magnus being a CL that can bleed to āconfirmā himself didnāt pass through Tele? This reeks of a perspective slip.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/986?u=alice
Probs not accepting anything shorter than a jail/channel/link.
Jakethewolfie
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/293?u=alice
Okayā¦ this is a huge WTF either way itās interpreted or not. The carelessness of this mistakes makes me believe that this may be TWTBAW as no Cultist would make such a dumb and obvious perspective slip. Would probably keep an eye on Jake later on, but I wouldnāt lynch him so far.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/313?u=alice
Eh, his insistence in wanting to keep talking about this so-called slip looks to be more LHF. Iād expect a wolf to want the topic gone ASAP rather than keep digging a bigger grave for themselves.
PokemonKidRyan
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/297?u=alice
Eww, just no. This townread was completely unreasonable and unwarranted as any faction could have pointed this out due to the mechanical multiball factor. Another major ping here as it reminds me way too much of PKR pocketing new players by TRāing them and defending for poor reasons.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/414?u=alice
Holding PKRās feet to the fire here. Iāll be waiting to see if this enthusiasm is real or not.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/486?u=alice
I kind of liked the tone here. Looks to be genuine town annoyance at Ozz wolfclaiming for no reason similarly to how he was annoyed at James for claiming Shaman in RM3.
Marshall
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/446?u=alice
ā¦why? This is odd as it doesnāt advance the gamestate in no way whatsoever.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/522?u=alice
Eh, the delivery is kind of fine. Would expect more in-depth reasoning though.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/971
Ozzkozz
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/483?u=alice
Non-stop scumclaiming not withstanding, defiance here points to either BD or a very ballsy cultist. Kind of leaning the former with Ozzās experience level. Donāt think a Cultist here would be trying to attract so much negative attention to themselves for shit reasons like this.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/800?u=alice
Napoleon
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/642?u=alice
Would like follow-up, still having the same thoughts as Napoleon for this read. So far this is a positive and a decent entrance, tbh.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/691?u=alice
Tone seems pure here in relation to Napoleonās exchange with Arete.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/730?u=alice
Eh, hedgey. Still kind of liking how Napoleon decided to get into the Kyo/Luxy/Vul fray rather than stay neutral.
Luxy
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/692?u=alice
Hmmā¦ direct tone seems a plus. Probs want to see how further Luxy goes as I donāt think Iāve seen a scumgame from them in eons.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/700?u=alice
Would really want follow-up here.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/716?u=alice
Meh, donāt like how Luxyās being so reachy here.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/749?u=alice
Hit the nail on the head, really. Donāt think heād re-eval Kyo were he scum here, really. Sharing the same read as Vulgard on him.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/910?u=alice
Yeah, lock Luxy as BD. This level of backed-up skepticism never comes from scum.
Magnus
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/848?u=alice
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/852?u=alice
Iād scumread this hard if it wasnāt Magnus.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/877?u=alice
Again, Iād scumread this hard if it wasnāt Magnus.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-1-a-king-for-centuries/77883/883?u=alice
Iām townreading this just because this is Magnus. Eh, this kind of reminds me of town Magnus for being so damn carefree and careless about his claim. Usually he just freezes and acts reactive as fuck when heās a wolf, so Iām comfortable putting him as BD.
Vulgard - Most confident BD read as of now. Entire ISO just screams āI am BDā at the top of their lungs. Tone looks relaxed, he looks confident with his reads, thought process looks extremely natural going from noticing Kyoās eccentricities, then chasing him over it, and reconsidering as a potential tunnel. Vulgardās preeeeeetty much never flipping Cult here. Point is, Vulgardās entire attitude in the thread points to them knowing that their role card is blue and that they donāt know the color of Kyoās.
Luxy - Iām pretty confident in my ability to read Luxy and Iām quite sure heās BD here. In the same vein as Vulgard. Heās a more confident wolf than Vulgard but at the same time his thoughts as a wolf are far less fluid than the ones above. Him questioning KyoDaz and then re-evaluating his push via meta is something that would come naturally rather than artificially. Additionally for him not to take Magnusā busy excuse at face value and then explain why should pretty much lock him BD.
Magnus - Magnus pretty much needs to be evaluated holistically and with meta. Re-reading his wolf games as in NDFM heās extremely on the edge and reactive while town Magnus is extremely relaxed. The way he was interacting with Luxy and then claiming d1 in a relaxed tone despite being pressured by Luxy is very in-meta for him and I donāt think heās likely to flip Cult here.
Napoleon - Mostly from the purity with regards to his comments with Arete. In general Napoleon doesnāt feel like he has any agenda behind him and I donāt think heās likely to flip Cult.
KyoDaz - My entire read on him was a huge-ass rollercoaster. From the way heās framing his questions he doesnāt look more informed than an average BD and from how he was focusing more on his idea rather than trying to defend himself looks to be more of a flailing villager, especially with how resolute he was in wanting to lynch Jgoes.
Jakethewolfie - Kind of reading him LHF-ish, same reason as Iām reading KyoDaz. The entire way he phrased how both Cults are trying to eliminate each other felt like a BD who misphrased what he meant to say. Him further bringing home the point of insisting that the multiball element can often bring SvS fights rather than defend himself kind of feels that the same thing that happened a few games ago is happening here. Basically focus on ideas rather than defending himself makes me believe this is also BD.
AreteSlashStars - Cursory glance, but this is probably BD from a mixture of his tone as he didnāt immediately rush to act solvey and how organic his reads are coming along. Areteās reads and wallposts in SFoL51 compensated how artificial his reads form with content and effort. His entire read on Ozz and DatBird look like an actual thought process with no agenda driven behind it, even if it didnāt really arrive at any conclusions.
Ozzkozz - As I said above, way too ballsy to be a wolf. Very few Cultists would actually drag so much negative attention by repeatedly claiming to be a damn cultists, especially so early when the Cult is so vulnerable. Him telling PKR off kind of solidifies this as itās unlikely as hell for scum to be so contemptuous, especially while non-stop scumclaiming.
SirDerpsALot - Tonal read again similar to how Iāve correctly townread him after a few posts in random role-madness. Donāt think he goes from how he played in FoL23 to having a tone like this as scum in just a few games.
DatBird - Extremely weak read so far to the point that itās pretty much a null right now. Only reason he isnāt lower is because the paranoid earlier on felt genuine. The fact that his recent posts have only been shitposting and mechanical talk isnāt a good look.
Marshall/Kai_5 - Pretty much gut.
H_Hja - As scum they just throw shade and donāt bother to solve. Them charging at DatBird like that was pretty obvious for them as town.
FrorstWolf103/SoulShade55r/Italy/Centuries - No posts as of yet. Caveat on Soul is that he recently picked up a meta as hyperposting as town, so if he lowposts for much of the game then this would be a sign that he needs a closer look
Sulit - Eh, focus here has been extremely narrow when compared to her other games, plus I donāt feel the same energy that she shows towards her scumreads here. Overall she feels way too underwhelming and more in line with how she played in SFoL50 rather than the town games Iāve played with her.
Jgoes - Distrust here as so far he looks way too flightly for my tastes. Not really engaging with anyone and just floating around reeks him being a Cultist going UTR.
PokemonKidRyan - Only good thing going for him is my emotional read on his frustration, really. Iām stupidly skeptical of his intentions when it came to townreading Jake for his mechanical post. He claimed to be enthusiastic to play, so Iāll probably keep a closer look to see if itās authentic or not, tbh.
Teleology - Entire ISO has been a trainwreck. Lack of taking stances, hedging, overly cautious, not making strong reads, their 180 on Jake, them accepting Magnus claim just by bleeding. Point is, see above.
Vulgard
H_Hja
Luxy
Magnus
Napoleon
SirDerpsALot
Jakethewolfie
AreteSlashStars
Ozzkozz
Marshall
Kai_5
DatBird
FrostWolf103
SoulShade55er
Jgoes
Italy
Teleology - Mech info likely BD.
(Centuries) - King
Either way, hereās basically the notes Iāve written yesterday. I kept my actual reads and the reasoning them hidden because we had 2 Cults and no lynch, so yeah. Will be back on in an hour or so. Still thinking rn we should pressure Italy/Jgoes as if we had Cult jumping on Tele then itās probably in thos guys. Soul/Frost should probably be checked tonight.
/vote Vulgard
Like I said, Italy is playing similar to how they did in the NFoL where they were a CL if I remember correctly. This could be just how they play, but its sus and the strongest scum read I have atm
Sorry for the meming yesterday. I didnāt think people would actually take me seriously when I was joking about being cult.