SFoL 64 - Anonymous FoL - Day 6 - The Possessor, Inquisitor, and Fool are victorious!

[Peter_Carew]

@Isabel_Savage

Of course, they can still be converted even if they were starting town when they found the NK.

Mary can still be starting cult

do not clear someone for lynching scum of a different alignemnt

trust me, its a bad plan

now lets talk about what you dont see from a town POV on my slot

[Alice_Alard]

@Peter_Carew

I knew about 2/3 of this stuff by the time I got here

@Alice_Alard

You didn’t know Geoffrey was jailed n1

@Peter_Carew

Geoffrey probs not starting gscum, could easily see them being nk tho

@Jane_Drayton

Then Geoffrey is pretty much mech-confirmed town here.

But anyway, can you try to speak up for your previous slot’s action though.

@Peter_Carew

Que?

Took this to mean you didn’t know Geoffrey was jailed n1. ^

@Alice_Alard

You didn’t know Andy was checked / by whom

@Peter_Carew

Just reading Andys SoD1 I feel like thats a wolf

@Isabel_Savage

Andy claimed CW and they’ve been red checked as K/O.
They have to be NK here.

@Peter_Carew

Who checked them?

@Alice_Alard

You haven’t read how Helen died

@Peter_Carew

side note do we know how Helen died

@Alice_Alard

You didn’t know that Jane is now King

@Peter_Carew

I want to say go Jane because bounty printer go brrr

@Peter_Carew

wait lol Isnt Jane king

@Alice_Alard

You didn’t know Gilbert was yeeted

@Peter_Carew

Gilbert is NK

@Alice_Alard

You didn’t comment on anyone else’s claims / mechanical info, and you jump immediately to Jane being fake

@Isabel_Savage

I think your slot claimed to bounty Jane. Who was just confirmed now with their bounty on Gilbert activating.

@Peter_Carew

Lit

I haven’t read cult classes

Im like 80% sure cult can bounty tho?

@Peter_Carew

So yes cult can bounty

@Peter_Carew

Jane is the convert

they bountied Helen N1 but didn’t out it because lolconvert

@Peter_Carew

Helen was your top scum read Eod1

you completley ignored the slot D2 and came up with some wack performative story about why you didn’t Bounty

Its because you were converted and bountied a wolf

why you always lying

[Peter_Carew]

Ah yes because I did the jane iso the second I subbed into the game not after I already looked at a few other slots yeah?

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

You didn’t comment on anyone else’s claims / mechanical info, and you jump immediately to Jane being fake

@Peter_Carew

Heyo, I haven’t really read anything ill get to that soon

but has my slot claimed yet?

@Peter_Carew

Have they claimed the bounty today or nah

@Peter_Carew

Lit

I haven’t read cult classes

Im like 80% sure cult can bounty tho?

@Peter_Carew

So yes cult can bounty

@Peter_Carew

Gilbert is NK

@Peter_Carew

oh lol OP wasn’t updated

@Peter_Carew

Just reading Andys SoD1 I feel like thats a wolf

@Peter_Carew

Jane is def starting town

@Peter_Carew

Geoffrey probs not starting gscum, could easily see them being nk tho

@Isabel_Savage

Andy claimed CW and they’ve been red checked as K/O.
They have to be NK here.

@Peter_Carew

Who checked them?

@Jane_Drayton

Mary Savil checked them.

@Peter_Carew

Mary probs scum ngl

check is probabaly legit tho

Notice how I asked all the stuff before comming to the conclusion jane is a convert??!

@Peter_Carew

Jane is the convert

they bountied Helen N1 but didn’t out it because lolconvert

Mary is CL

Andy is NK

[Alice_Alard]

@everyone
If anyone has a redcheck, now is the time to out it.

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@Peter_Carew

this also, in a way, assumed ‘perfect’ play from both parties. You have to keep in mind mistakes will be made and not everyones actions are going to make sense for their specific alignemnt all the time

Eg town do scummy shit all the fucking time

Alright. So town do scummy shit all the time.
Do you see a world where Jane isn’t just a Noble who fucked up?
Or a world where Mary isn’t just an Alchemist who fucked up?
Where would you look outside of them? What other teams make sense to you?

@Peter_Carew

Notice how I asked all the stuff before comming to the conclusion jane is a convert??!

I just find it peculiar that everything you have said so far just makes me more certain I have the correct solve.
I might be too far into this tunnel and confbiasing myself into scumreading everything you say because of how much I disliked the previous player in your slot.

I’m going to chillax for a bit and try to think about this objectively.

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

Do you see a world where Jane isn’t just a Noble who fucked up?

I can’t really see any other worlds withought it just being a super deep wolf.

[Peter_Carew]

Ozzcams razor or some shit like that says its just jane

idk if im using that right

I dont fully understand it

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

I might be too far into this tunnel and confbiasing myself into scumreading everything you say because of how much I disliked the previous player in your slot.

I can’t say much about the previous player in my slot, but if you could read the slot off just me lol

[Peter_Carew]

I just skimmed the ISO of my previous slot and uh

yeah I can see why youre at where you are right know

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

are you dipping from thread for now or are you willing to converse with me

[Alice_Alard]

I have some irl things I have to take care of, so I’ll be multitasking

But I’m here partially.
What’s up.

[Peter_Carew]

talk to me about why you dont like my slot?

Im not the other people in my slot but I can do my best to walk thru their actions

[Peter_Carew]

Its been almost an hour and Im tired imma give it a few more min and then imma head to bed. Ill respond in the morning in that case

[Arete]

If a majority is not reached sooner, the day will end when the topic is autobumped

It’s not autolocking because kat’s not a mod but might be the only one around for EoD, but don’t talk after it gets bumped

[Alice_Alard]

The first player in your slot had a very weak start, which put them on my radar. They barely existed during d1. They posted 10 times.
Hard to read a player who isn’t posting. I responded to them in an attempt to prod them into posting more, but they didn’t.
This made me want to watch out for them the following day to make sure they pick up the slack.

@Alice_Alard

@Peter_Carew

@Alice_Alard

What is your greatest strength as a villager?
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being obv town and sheeping votes lol

Hm
Doesn’t seem like you’re living up to the first part yet.

Peter’s catch-up is… useless?
There’s nothing to it. The only read I see is naked:

@Peter_Carew

yep Lucy town

Not a fan of this slot so far. They haven’t contributed a single post of worthwhile content.

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Player 2 comes in on day 2 with what felt like a very opportunistic bounty claim on Thomas.
Aka, it felt fake.
Thomas was replaced earlier in the day, and never the lynch there, and the fact that your slot didn’t claim their bounty until 12h into the day was nagl.

@Alice_Alard

@Peter_Carew

the previous owner bountied Thomas Scott last night, and from what I’ve read he is only really clogging the thread so he’s a liability to town regardless of his alignment here.

… I dislike this claim immensely. Doesn’t feel real?
We’ve already talked about not claiming mechanical information unless it’s absolutely necessary, and I’d think you would at least read through the day before deciding whether or not you should out this information
It’s a no-brainer at the moment that we are not killing Thomas today - and a wolf would know this.

Emma did a very large post on Player 2 which I found myself agreeing a lot. It seemed like they were attempting to appeal to me quite a bit, and caught up on the game through my ISO, rather than just… reading everything. I then tried to get them to read the game start to finish with old-Thomas muted and they (basically) said “nah.”

@Emma_Maison

I don’t have nearly as much to say about Peter_Carew, unfortunately. Or at least, that is what I thought would be the case when I first entered his ISO.

I just realized the beginning of Emma’s post sounds like the opening line of a FM soap opera.

@Peter_Carew

I used her ISO as the thread since I was not going to read day 1

@Alice_Alard

Peter I would like you to put old Thomas on Ignore and actually read the thread start to finish, please.

@Peter_Carew

Probably not going to happen but if I find the time, I will

When reading through Player 2’s bigass post on Jane, I found myself agreeing that Jane had scum equity, but at the same time, I didn’t feel comfortable voting there, as Player 2’s push felt like it was in bad faith. You can expand and read the entire post if you wish, but I’ve quoted the 3 things that gave me pause:

@Alice_Alard

I find myself agreeing with you that Jane has a lot of wolf potential, and I understand why this wagon formed now. Pretty fine voting there, but three things are giving me pause:
A. I feel like you went into this post with a conclusion in mind, and this was a scum-case, rather than a genuine attempt to read Jane? It could be conf-bias from the “heeby jeebies,” I suppose.
B. You’re too focused on a single player. You aren’t really looking outside of Jane recently. Jane is the only player you made a wallpost on, and you haven’t done the same with the rest of your PoE. This feels kinda bad faith.
C. The Gilbert wagon never picked up any traction. Not when Thomas first voted them (which was before I voted Ivo), and not when I hopped on it with Thomas. A super basic threadread makes me feel like something is wrong here, but I’m having a hard time telling what? (I also have something extremely pre-flippy to say on this but I’ll leave it for allies probably lmao)

In response to A and B above, Player 2 said they can’t be bothered to expand outside of their push on Jane and look at other players, and when I asked them to make a wallpost on the other players in their PoE just like they did with Jane, they never responded. I pinged them multiple times about this and gave them more than enough opportunities.

@Alice_Alard

@Peter_Carew

Can’t be bothered tbh

Not a fan of this. I don’t like your narrow mindset currently.

I understand that you think Jane is a wolf, but you don’t win games by focusing on one player a day.

@Peter_Carew

Also I was told to make a wallpost on him

Cool. Go make me a wallpost on another person in your PoE who you would feel comfortable voting if not for Jane.

@Alice_Alard

I feel kinda lost and demotivated rn
I guess I’ll re-ping and hold a few people to some things that were asked of them.

@Alice_Alard

@Peter_Carew

Also I was told to make a wallpost on him
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Cool. Go make me a wallpost on another person in your PoE who you would feel comfortable voting if not for Jane.

@Peter_Carew

@Alice_Alard

@Alice_Alard

@Peter_Carew

Also I was told to make a wallpost on him
[/quote]

Cool. Go make me a wallpost on another person in your PoE who you would feel comfortable voting if not for Jane.

I’d like you to do this now, please.

The quotes fucked up but you get the idea.

Overall, your slot was extremely focused on a single player for the entirety of d2, and never expanded their boundaries to look outside of Jane. Felt extremely bad-faith to me, as it was a scum-case, rather than an objective view of Jane’s alignment, and he didn’t push for Jane’s death as much as I’d expect from someone who is so completely sure of someone (Jane) being a wolf.

Overnight in allies, I shared my theory with King/Prince that was very preflippy (hence why I saved it for allies), and came to the conclusion that the push from Player 2 had signs of being w/w with Jane. This has been skewing how I view both slots, for sure.

Today, Player 2 had another bounty claim that seemed extremely fake. Thomas sums up my thoughts pretty well:

@Peter_Carew

I bountied Jane last night, but apparently we’re kinging them?

@Thomas_The_Second

Bleh.

Hating how both of Peter’s bounties were on players who managed to clear themselves right before he announced his bounty.

After looking for spew from Helen, there was one portion that made me raise an eyebrow, but nothing extremely incriminating.

@Alice_Alard

@Helen_Harte

@Peter_Carew

want more posts
and before y’all say “no u”
i too want more posts from me

Randomly pinging a player without progression on them, or ever mentioning them beforehand, is potential w/w behavior (and in my experience, it is more likely to come from a wolf). This isn’t extremely incriminating, but I want to note it, as I also think Peter is scummy individually.

After reading through Emma’s analysis of how people interacted with Helen, I found myself agreeing that there was potential for your slot to be partnered with them:

@Emma_Maison

I think these posts have some partner equity with Helen. “I will vote Helen if needed” but not voting her, avoiding making a read on Helen by saying “I don’t remember,” then shifting the read on Helen alongside thread consensus instead of independent progression.

Fin.
Needless to say, I can’t just ignore everything the previous players in your slot have done.
@Peter_Carew
glhf

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

The first player in your slot had a very weak start, which put them on my radar. They barely existed during d1. They posted 10 times.
Hard to read a player who isn’t posting. I responded to them in an attempt to prod them into posting more, but they didn’t.
This made me want to watch out for them the following day to make sure they pick up the slack.

Theirs not much I can say about this other than

1. post count is NAI
2. they were busy lol

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

Player 2 comes in on day 2 with what felt like a very opportunistic bounty claim on Thomas.
Aka, it felt fake.
Thomas was replaced earlier in the day, and never the lynch there, and the fact that your slot didn’t claim their bounty until 12h into the day was nagl.

Again I can’t say much about this other than my slot was bust, as well as it was the first plater who submited the action not the second

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

In response to A and B above, Player 2 said they can’t be bothered to expand outside of their push on Jane and look at other players, and when I asked them to make a wallpost on the other players in their PoE just like they did with Jane, they never responded. I pinged them multiple times about this and gave them more than enough opportunities.

Villagers tunnel one person all the time I don’t think its especially AI

[Alice_Alard]

I’ve gotta head out for a little bit.
I’ll respond later on.

[Peter_Carew]

@Alice_Alard

Today, Player 2 had another bounty claim that seemed extremely fake. Thomas sums up my thoughts pretty well:

the bounty was real but not much I can do to prove that now