SFoL 64 - Anonymous FoL - Day 6 - The Possessor, Inquisitor, and Fool are victorious!

I don’t have nearly as much to say about Peter_Carew, unfortunately. Or at least, that is what I thought would be the case when I first entered his ISO. What I can initially say is that this slot mostly wasted time on day 1. The claim of the account’s new owner, about bountying Thomas, is… something to keep in mind.

I am obviously not interested in triggering this bounty. Thomas is town in my opinion, and always has been. I do not believe any mafia team would convert the thread spammer on night 1, because there was no way they could have known he would be replaced with a helpful contributor.

The idea that Peter account’s previous owner had only two reads is something I’m inclined to believe, given his displayed attitude and type of posting within the thread. Unfortunately, the new player in the slot could easily say this as either alignment, using the previous player’s real (or fake) reads in the classcard, so this is not very alignment indicative of Peter.

This post feels somewhat pre-flippy, but I could see this coming from a townie who really believes that Thomas is scum. The strange thing is that he… shouldn’t believe that Thomas is scum.

According to this post, Peter does not feel strongly about Thomas’ alignment either way. Yet a few posts later, he posts an implied scumread on Gilbert based on Gilbert defending Thomas, which… implies something about Thomas’ alignment. I’m not sure why Peter would feel so uneasy about Gilbert’s alignment here, when Thomas should be a nullread to him, according to Peter’s own words. He should not care much about Gilbert’s defense of his nullread, unless the defense was written in a suspicious way, which he doesn’t say.

Given the lack of satisfactory reasoning, and the lack of sense in Peter’s apparent progression, this comes across as opportunistic shadethrowing.

And it is not the last time Peter does this.

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Follows up on Alice’s read by outright calling Nicolas mafia. Again, this feels opportunistic. Alice is a consensus townread. Backing her up here and further shaking Nicolas’ position is something a mafioso could easily do in order to buddy up to Alice.

He doesn’t say it, but his scumread on Gilbert also appears to follow Alice’s without much added insight on his own end. The only insight he had about Gilbert is that one time he threw shade on Gilbert for defending Thomas, when he didn’t even have a visible read of his own on Thomas.

I don’t think I need to say why I dislike this explanation, and why I believe it to be another example of Peter’s consistently opportunistic play.

This man does not townread anyone. He just scumreads anyone he can lay his hands on.

This is the one townread I could find, and Peter visibly buddies up to Alice by bouncing off her reads and scumreading the same targets she talks about. Theoretically, a townie could do the same thing by aligning themselves with their townread, but considering the progression issues I saw in Peter’s ISO earlier, I don’t think what he’s doing is very honest. The only person he seems to actively townread, and whose posts he always compliments… that person is Alice. Which is not even a read that is anti-consensus, or otherwise unique in any way.

So far, this doesn’t look very good. And I haven’t even mentioned the notably low postcount yet.

And this, about Jane. Again. Similar circumstances as his previous scumreads. He just attacks people left and right. At least this one was independent, so that is a plus.

I didn’t expect this ISO to devolve into a wave of criticism, but I really don’t think Peter has been towny this game regardless of who handled the slot. The first player mostly shitposted, whereas I saw the second buddying up to Alice and scumreading people for one-liner reasons, sometimes even contradicting his previous statements.

He finally explains his Gilbert scumread a bit more, but even this explanation is contradictory. When he scumread Gilbert for defending Thomas, like I said before, he had no visible read on Thomas. Now, he apparently townreads Thomas. “A townie who was hurting the town.” It is pretty much what I said, and I agree, but the fact he did not visibly use that initially is making he incredibly suspicious. This entire contradiction could have been partially avoided, had he simply said that Thomas was town in his eyes before making the read on Gilbert. But he didn’t, and I think it has to be notable.

I dislike the self-awareness. The only good thing about Peter’s accusations is his aggression, and that is a playstyle / emotional attitude which can be easily faked by a mafioso who is one step above a newbie mafia player.

Conclusion: I really struggle to see Peter as a townie, regardless of who was handling the slot. Many of his pushes feel opportunistic, his struggle to townread anyone but Alice is noted (to his credit, he appears to townread Geoffrey, because he agreed with Geoffrey at one point – but since I scumread Geoffrey myself, that doesn’t change my mind very much), and the person he does townread (Alice) is someone he visibly attempts to buddy up to. To his credit, his interactions with Alice’s content do not necessarily look like pocketing, but it seems very clear that he intends to use her reads to push people – and he has done it already. His independent reads lack sufficient reasoning and look like haphazard pushes, the suspicion of which is supposed to be masked by aggression.

I simply do not believe that most things Peter has done have been honest, and for that reason, he is firmly within my scumreads now.

Going to make a very polarising read and say the top 4 posters besides James the First are likely town

I like Emma’s two above posts a lot

As I said, its the action itself that is not a good look for him

Defending PL is more commonly done by wolves than townies

Thomas*

I can see you believing that.

Adding Isabel to townleans until further notice, with open possibility for conversion that I might return to later.
Adding Peter to my mafia list. It currently contains five people.

Alan
Andy
Geoffrey
Helen
Peter

I am not swayed by Geoffrey’s posts today, but I might reconsider him closer to the end of the day.

The other four are people I would like to lynch today. Any of these four would be acceptable for me, excluding potential improvement from any of them.

I used her ISO as the thread since I was not going to read day 1

I don’t think it’s true, but I don’t think you have a reason to lie about your general principles regardless of your alignment. You’re not using context here, after all.

I mean I just said it was a bad look for him, and he got up in arms and made like 5 posts questioning it which I responded to with the same response 5 times or something :man_shrugging:

There is something angleshooty I could say about this, but since I don’t even consider it very reliable, I won’t.

Keep going. I’ll move on to other people, and wait for my townreads to see what they think about what I’ve said.

I think I said it I really had no reliable direction since I had not read the thread at all so I picked Alice’s ISO to look at and whether or not I agreed with what she said

Gilbert is not on my list of mafia reads and potential lynches today because I have some reservations about lynching him. I think he is townier than the other four people on my list.

I see.

Plus I was effectively the only person in thread at the time so I had no one to interact with, which is my main way of making townreads on people

Since I’m in the thread alongside you right now, do you believe I’m town or not?

I mean I just said that

You said that you liked my two posts, but I wasn’t certain if it was synonymous with a townread. Noted.

Sort by postcount theorists would consider Thomas 1 the towniest player to have ever existed.

Clearly he should be locktown

The hosts combined have more posts than Helen does.
I feel comfortable keeping my vote there.