SFoL 64 - Anonymous FoL - Day 6 - The Possessor, Inquisitor, and Fool are victorious!

[Sarah_Lacey]

Wow I’m so slow at reading

Let me quickly respond to Geoffrey before EoD:

@Geoffrey_Bailey

@Sarah_Lacey

I like Alice for her principles, and the response to Gilbert showed her experience.

again same as before, but I want Sarah to explain how experience translates into towniness

Well ok I might just be using English bad here.
I liked Alice as a player and thought that we should be keeping them alive for some time because of their experience, and they seemed towny enough because they were . In my experience and in the things I’ve been told, experienced players should be kept alive until determined otherwise through mech.

@Geoffrey_Bailey

@Sarah_Lacey

I don’t necessarily agree with Alice’s post here, but I think I can guess that they might be one of the more experienced players. They have their own standards, and evaluate others based on those criterias.

Into the towncore you go!

I think the progression on Alice here is terrible. Like it goes from memes to “yup, that’s towncore”.

Similarly here, I used “towncore” in the terms of “not really sure about their alignment but I think we want to keep them alive”
on second thought maybe I shouldn’t bother others for their english

@Geoffrey_Bailey

@Sarah_Lacey

I’m starting to doubt my townread on this

I also want to know how you went from this

@Sarah_Lacey

I think Thomas is town, but they’re being excessively annoying. I do not disagree to this slot dying if they do not improve; they’re anti-town regardless of their role.

to this
like the progression here doesn’t make any sense if these are serious reads

The first one was the joke-ish.
Still leaning him V but I still really don’t like them as a person.

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Catching up is hard - sorry!
Will hopefully post what I have before EoD

[Sarah_Lacey]

You know what I probably wont have time…

Up until about post 1198

Catch up #2!
Been busy-ish and this game fell waaaayy down my priority list after yesterday…

Summary

@Peter_Carew

@Andy_Bernard

Lucy has a very towny posts in my opinion and their tone is very obviously towny for me.

yep Lucy town

@Lucy_Wrenne

Im not really sure why your coming to a townread on me, when you are quoting a post just saying im town? Is there more to it?

I’m really starting to like Lucy here!
Yes the response can be faked, but the way that they worded it seems pretty analytical and truthful.
On the flipside, I don’t like Peter simply saying “Lucy town”, but I think I’ve seen that playstyle somewhere else on this site so I’ll put that off for now.

@Nicolas_Adams

Thomas - I think this is the most obvious town in the game. Especially when you take into account the way they reciprocate reads–pure villager energy there.

Hm!
I have Thomas on mute, so I don’t know what they have been doing; still, I don’t think their excessive trolling (and especially their excessive trolling) allows them to be at the top of the readlist due to the existence of WIFOM.

@Nicolas_Adams

Andy - Feels performative. They say they’re frustrated from trying to solve thomas, but it doesn’t really look like they’re actually trying to do that. Also some hedgy posts.

@Nicolas_Adams Can you elaborate on “some hedgey posts”?

[quote=“Isabel_Savage, post:1195, topic:83777, full:true”]

@Alice_Alard

@Isabel_Savage

GTH Alice calling out my read on Emma as “too quick” makes more sense coming from a villager than a wolf.
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I missed this.
Expand on this.
I don’t understand how this is AI in the slightest

It makes more sense for you to call out my read on Emma as being too quick from a village PoV than from a wolf.
I still think you’re town as you’re questioning people and clearly playing to solve the game.

I really dont like this.
Textbook case of pocketing, when criticized on their reads Isabel went “Yeah this is probably villager”

readlist coming next post.

[Edmond_Bailey]

i can absolutely do this.
currently, my top three scumreads are Isabel, and perhaps Peter and Helen?
i’m a lot more cautious with my scrumreads than my townreads as they’re historically not the best.

[Alice_Alard]

Top Town:
Lucy, Emma

Prob town:
Edmond, Ivo, Susan (feel a lot better about them recently tbh), Jane

Wolfleans:
Mary, Peter (still hasn’t done anything), Nicolas, Andy, Alan

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Everyone else I either forgot about or don’t care enough to categorize

[Geoffrey_Bailey]

@Sarah_Lacey

Well ok I might just be using English bad here.
I liked Alice as a player and thought that we should be keeping them alive for some time because of their experience, and they seemed towny enough because they were . In my experience and in the things I’ve been told, experienced players should be kept alive until determined otherwise through mech.

@Sarah_Lacey

Similarly here, I used “towncore” in the terms of “not really sure about their alignment but I think we want to keep them alive”
on second thought maybe I shouldn’t bother others for their english

We have another day to work out any misunderstandings, but I am glad you are posting. I also want those reads tomorrow

[Nicolas_Adams]

Hello!

I haven’t really changed my reads any (except susan trending up) since my readslist before, but I think it was something like

V
Alice
Ivo
Edmund

W
Adam (icr names but the a name that’s not king)
Jane (haven’t actually read but some of their stuff threw me off)
Ugh I cant remember I think Peter was pretty low?

And then thomas is thomas, don’t want to figyre out where they sit

I’ve been mostly focusing on people I think are towny, so sorry if I’m forgetting my wolfreads. My readslist is in my iso, that’s probably a better place to look tbh

[Geoffrey_Bailey]

@Lucy_Wrenne

OK so if u can please at this time respond to this post if you are awake before EOD to get some early consensus reads from everyone, this will help for NKA, general mindset of game, and have reads of players to see if they change later (mainly to check for progression)

I can summarize them if you want, but I have been posting them in the thread

[Nicolas_Adams]

@Sarah_Lacey

Can you elaborate on “some hedgey posts”?

I didn’t know eod was today, and I’m still onmob8le, so probably not until tomorrow

[Nicolas_Adams]

@Nicolas_Adams

Adam (icr names but the a name that’s not king

Just checked, I definitely mean Andy

[Susan_Ailemer]

T

Alice_Alard
Emma_Maison
Jane_Drayton
Lucy_Wrenne

Edmond_Bailey
Geoffrey_Bailey
Ivo_Wake
Nicolas_Adams

Sarah_Lacey, Helen_Harte

Andy_Bernard
Isabel_Savage

Mary_Savill
Gilbert_Lovell
Peter_Carew

W

Not reading: Self, Thomas, Alan

[Lucy_Wrenne]

Andy ISO

@Andy_Bernard

Hello people.
So who’s ready to win?

I have already touched on this bland af opener

@Andy_Bernard

Aight then, looks like there aren’t many people so let’s begin with some simple questions.
How does everyone plan to win this game?

boring question that Alice touched on that theres not much to gain here. Kinda why the first thing i did was turn it on him, as it felt pointless.

@Andy_Bernard

Hmm let’s see. First of all, I plan to play and I will. I’ll show y’all I’m town, because I am town. I plan to look at ISOs of reads of I am unsure of and I will contribute to most on-topic discussions.

kinda LAMIST

boring thomas stuff

so from looking at it, the main thing i liked that made me iffy on the slot when i mentioned to Alice, is that i liked the messages themselves and that helped me find em now, and its just frustration with thomas, so like i felt his struggle in real time

@Andy_Bernard

Your actions makes a lot of sense now…

@Andy_Bernard

Ok… oh man… reghuuuuuuuuuujk;
Thomas is kinda making this hard.
So can everyone just kinda ignore Thomas for now and just focus on other things? All of this Thomas seems rather pointless and goes no where really.

These two might be why i reconsidered but looking back im not really sure that its AI

basically a lot of his content is kinda nullish or leans scum especially the first two things i quoted. There seemed to be genuine annoyance with thomas but i think every allignment had it. I think his newer content has been lackluster due to being back in thread and not caught up. Like eh imma say >randwolf

@Alice_Alard as u wanted to be pinged

[Susan_Ailemer]

Would’ve hoped to get this out sooner, but I was a bit busy,

[Susan_Ailemer]

@Alan_Atlee please show up and tell us who your allies choices are.

[Susan_Ailemer]

If you have not yet chosen, I would please like you to choose within Alice, Emma, Lucy, and/or myself.

[Andy_Bernard]

@Lucy_Wrenne

@Andy_Bernard

Aight then, looks like there aren’t many people so let’s begin with some simple questions.

How does everyone plan to win this game?

boring question that Alice touched on that theres not much to gain here. Kinda why the first thing i did was turn it on him, as it felt pointless.

I literally said I was gonna begin with a simple question. Also, I was interested to see how everyone planned to play this game.

@Lucy_Wrenne

@Andy_Bernard

Hmm let’s see. First of all, I plan to play and I will. I’ll show y’all I’m town, because I am town. I plan to look at ISOs of reads of I am unsure of and I will contribute to most on-topic discussions.

kinda LAMIST

You asked me the question, what answer did you want.

[Sarah_Lacey]

Top Town, in order:
Lucy - good behavior all around, from responses to Thomas to responses on reads. Helpful townie.
Alice - helpful with reads, experienced player we should listen to while actively mechsolving them
Thomas (grumble grumble)

Top scum, in order:
Isabel
Not much reading after that ._.

[Lucy_Wrenne]

essentially just reply to the post with top scumreads, or just reads in general

[Edmond_Bailey]

King, if you don’t show up i will be disappointed. i know irl shit is a thing but EoD is important for King especially to discuss N1 Allies. i’d advise you pick between my four-man list though.
i am struggling to not scumread you for this rn even though i know activity is generally NAI

[Geoffrey_Bailey]

@Emma_Maison

So, Thomas is useless town. Has over half of the posts in the thread.
But since he is useless town, and all he does is spam the thread, I am not reading a single thing he writes going forward.
Since I can’t function in a thread with Thomas in it (and I doubt anyone else can), I’ll most likely get to ISOing people. At least the ISOs will be free from Thomas’ influence.

Oh, and by the way, Lucy is likely town. It’s not exactly a unique take, but a take nonetheless. I believe their posts have been town-motivated, their “town captain” attitude does not come across as bad-faith powerwolfing, and their treatment of Thomas (a mixture of pity, sympathy, and desire to improve the threadstate) felt genuine.
I also think Alice is likely town, if only because she is trying to post actual analysis in a thread flooded with nonsense. It’s a less strong read, because wolves can post analysis too. But I think her analysis has been quite good, which is why a townread is warranted.
Also, considering the context: the threadstate is an absolute mess. A wolf could get away with not posting anything substantial with trivial ease. Which is why whoever is posting something worth reading is automatically more likely town than not.

This no longer applies after I wrote this post, because now wolves might want to do the same thing just so I will townread them. I will no longer townread people for this.

But I’m comfortable townreading Alice for it, and Lucy too.

@Helen_Harte

thomas is ignored

Please tell me how to do this, that would be extremely helpful.

I like how they are solving out of the gate and that don’t really stop as the day goes on.

@Emma_Maison

Ah, the thread is finally at a reasonable size. This is quite liberating.
At least Thomas isn’t a killing class. We would have a big problem on our hands if that were the case. He’s still an annoyance, but at least he can’t gamethrow with his night action.

Anyway.

I think Edmond’s posts have been sufficiently free-flowy and free of formulaic progression. He looks good tonally as well, and he is not afraid to combine shitposting with a few meaningful questions + pieces of analysis.

I don’t think he’s at a high enough level to justify towncoring, but he is elevated above null. The primary issue I have with him is that he spent the first half of his ISO talking to Thomas and about Thomas. Like I said earlier, a wolf could easily do this, knowing they are set up to fail. It would also elevate their postcount.

Surely, there are also villagers who did this, though. You people really should have realized that it was a waste of time as soon as Thomas began to spam pepegas and failed to relent. But I digress.

This is the kind of person town should act like. We need more solvers and less memers and complainers.

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Conclusion
I could go on and on about them solving, but that would be redundant. I highlighted some examples above, but Emma proves you can be towny, solve, and have fewer posts. This will not be a surprise, but this is my top town read as of now. @Alan_Atlee I hope you put Emma in allies tonight

[Susan_Ailemer]

everyone, spam ping the King! That’ll surely summon them quicker! :^)