SFoL 67: Clash of Cults 2 -- Balance/Discussion Thread

[anon6348071]

Actually this one looks quite good.
I like it.

[KyoDaz]

I am the Prince

[katze]

kyodaz has been YOTE

they were

da knite

[Amelia]

Also TBE you expressed concern about blood daze, which already exists in FoL as dark rune, yet ignored Moonshine :^)

[katze]

@Amelia

Dose - Blood Daze (Day) - If target player attempts to use a day ability today, they will be forced to target themself with it. 2 uses

id be happy with making this a 1 one use, since they have a 1 use dayocc already

@Amelia

Mix Rooms - Teleport (Night) - Redirect anyone targetting a player to another player, and vice versa. 2 uses

prob needs a new name since corax invoker has Teleport already

@Amelia

Serve Ale - Moonshine (Night) - Grant a selected Cult member a 1 use occupy that they can use in addition to their normal night action tomorrow night. 2 uses

@Amelia

2 point
Serve Ale - Moonshine (Night) - All Cult members, including yourself, will gain a 1 use occupy that they may use in addition to their normal night action tomorrow. 1 use

interesting ideas

i lightly prefer my own (cause it fits “redirect to self” better, and also cause i made it)

but i don’t hate this

[Amelia]

Call the Mix Room alt Blood Portal then

[anon6348071]

@katze

prob needs a new name since corax invoker has Teleport already

Blood Gate or whatever.

[anon6348071]

Half-mindmeld, lock Mithras Cult :^)

[Amelia]

Moonshine as a 2 point is my favorite since you give up bus drives for locking down the BD for a night

[katze]

i’ll consider it

i think i might let that alt go down to a democracy vote or something

[anon6348071]

Polls are a thing so yeah

[TheBlueElixir]

moonshine is cool

didnt know about dr and forgot about that prince immunity

[katze]

uhh

not sure who would know the answer to this so @arete

looking at old CW classcard

The Court Wizard

Blue Dragon Support
Arcane Empower (Day) - The player that you target with your ability tonight will bypass immunities (discounting conversion immunity) and be guaranteed to succeed with their actions. Their investigative abilities will always receive correct results. - 2 uses.
Magical Barrier (Night) - Protect a player from negative effects and conversion tonight. Does not prevent attacks. - Infinite uses
Ice Ward (Night) - Prevent anyone else from visiting your target. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

Converts into The Sage or The Ritualist
Cult points: 2

they have no cult alts but it doesnt say how much their abilities cost so…

were they supposed to cost 1 each?

assuming so and if i get no answer saying otherwise i’m rolling with this being a yes

@geyde you might know since you cohosted the first one actually

[Geyde]

If it says nothing it means 1 for each one

[katze]

@katze

Blue Dragon Classes

this was a lot of work

@katze

The Tavernkeeper (Unofficial Class)

Blue Dragon Offensive
Steadfast (Passive) - Immune to occupation and redirection.
Dose (Day) - Target player is occupied for this day. - 1 Use
Mix Rooms (Night) - Target 2 other players. Redirect all players targeting either of your targets to the other. You will be seen visiting your first target only. This cannot target the same player twice in a row. - Infinite uses
Serve Ale (Night) - Redirect a player to themselves. - 1 Use
Your objective is to defeat the Corax and Mithras Cults.

Converts into The Mithras Invoker or The Corax Invoker.

Cult points: 2 - Each ability costs: 1
Cult Alts:
(Dose) Blood Daze (Day) - If target player attempts to use a day ability today, they will be forced to target themself with it. - 1 use
(Mix Rooms) Blood Portal (Night) - Target 2 players. Redirect all players targeting either of your targets to the other. You will be seen visiting your first target only. Can target self. - 2 uses
(Serve Ale) Mithras’ Reflection (Night) - Target a player. Redirect all players targeting them back to themselves. - 1 use

any objections to the cult alts here?

[KyoDaz]

Where is the fake mod announced IC?

[anon6348071]

Looks more or less fine to me.
Except the last one, shouldn’t it be two pointer?

[Arete]

I think the default was ‘if you have an ability or passive that doesn’t have a listed alt, you can take that ability for 1 point’

so for instance Phys-> Rit could take Inoculate

but I could be wrong

[katze]

no im aware of that

every class had " Cult points: 2 - Each ability costs 1" or something where CW and one other class just had “Cult points: 2”

but geyde got back to me already

ayaya

[katze]

@anon6348071

Except the last one, shouldn’t it be two pointer?

yeah that was a topic of debate in my head

i think 2 bus driver uses is probably about as strong as a 1 use reflect (that doesn’t bypass immunities or anything)