SFoL 67: Clash of Cults 2 -- Balance/Discussion Thread

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#31

So, like I said, a list of Mithras/Corax references on Corax/Mithras Cult’s class cards (together with proposed fix suggestions) for a certain katgirl.

Corax Cult

Corax Acolyte

Hemorrhage (Day) - Invoke Mithras’ will to cause a target to start bleeding uncontrollably. They will bleed and die in two nights if not healed. - 1 use

Change to:

Hemorrhage (Day) - Invoke Corax’s will to cause a target to start bleeding uncontrollably. They will bleed and die in two nights if not healed. - 1 use

Corax Apostle

Mithras’ Influence (Night)
Mithras’ Puppetry (Night)

Change to:

Corax’s Influence (Night)
Corax’s Puppetry (Night)

Corax Cult Leader

Blood of Mithras (Day)
Eradicate (Night) - Unleash ancient power within Mithras, attacking 2 target players at once. This ability will be seen visiting the first target only. - 2 uses

Change to:

Seal of Corax (Day) (?)
Eradicate (Night) - Unleash ancient power of Corax, attacking 2 target players at once. This ability will be seen visiting the first target only. - 2 uses

Corax Ritualist

Mithras’ Mercy (Night)

Change to:

Corax’s Mercy (Night)

Corax Seeker

Mithras’ Murmurs (Day)

Change to:

Corax’s Murmurs (Day)

Mithras Cult

Applies to Cult Alts only, Mithras Cult has proper ability names.

Maid Cult Alt

(Rumor): Corax whispers (Day) - Frame target player this night. - 2 Uses.

Change to:

(Rumor): Warp Flesh (Day) (?)

Priest Cult Alt

(Channel): Corax’ Corruption (Night) - The target dead player’s voice will be brought back to life until you die. They may speak and use your vote. Target dead player will also be converted, provided they can be. You are immune to occupation and redirect while using this ability. - 1 use

Change to:

(Channel): Mithras’ Corruption (Night)

Princess Cult Alt

(Will-o-wisp) Eyes of Corax - Corax will watch over the target, determining their exact class. - 2 uses

Change to:

(Will-o-wisp) Gaze of Mithras - Mithras will gaze into the target, determining their exact class. - 2 uses

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#32

question is if we include new apostle or old bad apostle

#33

By “new” Apostle you mean the “fixed” one from the current thread?

#34

The new one from FoL feedback thread as the Corax Apostle

#35

I think keeping this would be fine.
Since ‘fixed’ Apostle doesn’t actually change that much.

#36

This one

#37

Ah yes, Bounty and arguably gossip on starter scum.

As I said I’d rather keep the one in the OP.
Want to hear what katboy thinks.

#38

I mean

Mithras Apostle just picks Bounty :eyes:

#39

its good that it has bounty

gossip I can give or take

#40

Bounty is a bad ability.
Change my mind.

#41

I mean you’re not wrong

But it exists for now

#42

if noble has bounty apostle should have bounty

as an ability?

not a huge fan but I have 0 better ideas

#43

also have you noticed that Mithras Apostle can’t fake mystic

#44

Mithras Cult proven to be inferior once more :^)

#45

…mystic apostle’s best thing is that it allows CL to go get a better convert then itself

#46

I mean
That’s strong in of itself

#47

The Mystic has been eliminated and the Corax Cult can’t snatch them

You get another convert

#48

i wanted to discuss this, actually

because i think new Apostle can fake all 3 Social classes equally as good/better than the Mithras variants can with Cult Alts

although i guess the main outlier here is Mystic – where Mithras Mystic gets an additional convert a day sooner in exchange for their existence being outted immediately if they were an outted Mystic

/shrug

#49

Given the game will likely be far longer than a typical FoL game, current Corax Apostle cannot keep up a Mystic claim for long

And of course starter Corax Apostle is as useful as a chocolate teapot

#50

2 nights is still a long time

but this is kind of getting into the “i don’t entirely agree with the proposed FoL apostle changes” territory