[SFoL] SFoL 46 - Chaos 2 - Canned

That’s a really powerful argument for why this game can’t be allowed

It can be allowed if all signups unanimously agree on it. I already told you that, so you can waste your energy trying to convince me why imbalance = fun, or you can try to get them to rally.

This is necessary, because the OP does not accurately represent that all roles can be indiscriminately rolled without any limitations. In fact, because it lacks a rolelist completely it should default to this:

Rolelist

King (65% Good, 35% Evil / Devout)
Mastermind/Cult Leader
Assassin/Random Cult
Prince
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon
Random Blue Dragon / Random Neutral Non-Killer
Random Neutral Non-Killer
Neutral Killer

Or alternatively the rolelist can be closed completely, but then I still need to sign off on what it is behind the scenes.

I already did go through this

Never said that

Waz said that all roles can be rolled as I quoted before

And this

No, it didn’t as evidenced by for example Eevee outing after new information came to light.

I already showed you wazza’s quote before

New information, so better get all those people to unanimously back you or the decision stands.

Also just because Wazza makes a comment somewhere, doesn’t mean that that shouldn’t be present in the OP or that I should sign off on that too.

It’s clear that Wazza hasn’t conclusively decided on his distribution anyways, so it’s better to have that be cleared up by another person (read: me) before the game starts.

Well he said that he could change game

Also op said all these factions might be present

And what about people who read that message

Well let him decide then

How about we go with majority then and not on full agreement

Just because Wazza says something, doesn’t mean that’s what’s true. Especially because he didn’t send me this exact OP during review. He send me no OP at all.

This does not mean that all factions together might be present.

Only way to verify that is if they say that they are aware of that and by that you must get unanimous support once again.

Not how reviewing works.

No.

Why is this even on discussion?

Because I think it’s important to make decisions like these transparent.

Well Hja, there is the first person you can get to rally with you.

That’s not what I am arguing with

He didn’t say there are set amount of guaranteed roles and I asked him for clarification later to wich he answered that there will be either 0 amount of guaranteed or 2-3 amount of them

Then back to argument before

Why can’t there be imbalanced game

Why not you think you know better what majority want than what majority says it wants?

So you are against reviewing games beforehand in general?

Yes I’ve said before that I don’t think we should restrict what kind of games are allowed unless they go against general rules

If it’s splattered with big red letters in the OP and everybody would sign up after that, I would personally definitely allow it. (never join it though)

Something like

This game might be heavily imbalanced and you might roll a class with zero percent chance of winning

Well the moderation team disagrees with that for the time being.

You can appeal to us, but here is not the place for that.

No there is no reason it should be marked this way if you read op and assume something that wasn’t said in op instead of clarifying it, it’s your own fault

again what’s the problem with majority vote

I was asked on opinion and I said it

“It’s your own fault that you can’t read the tiny letters of the contract”

The problem being that the ones that happen to be in the minority actually have to freaking play lul. Unanimity is an obvious requirement here.

Is there not a thread for this kind of discussion? :thinking:

This is place where you can clarify wich I did and I was answered that either there will be 2/3 guaranteed BD or no guaranteed BD

So it’s better to have majority forced to play

Either way there is nothing that prohibits someone from outing