I was joking
Two of the nightkills should have been avoided but whatever, maybe they got strongmanned. I donât want to call protectives bad since I donât know what they did or why they did it.
Kyo is actually lock scum.
He 100% got into the thunderdome because whoever got lynched would get cleaned anyway. If Marshal was the one lynched he would push the agenda that Marshal mustâve been scum, then he would proceed to try and mislynch me because âlol lost wolf,â trying to ride on the prior towncred he had.
Yeah, it all makes sense to me. Maybe Iâm stupidly convincing myself of Kyo being scum, but honestly I think he really is scum and pushing him was the correct decision. There was also that TMI I brought up.
When he self-hammered he 100% knew he was getting cleaned, too. There is no way he was town. I donât believe it.
At least one scum vote on Kyo unless the scumteam is dumb and either didnât vote or piled everything on Marshal like lolwolves.
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What Arete said in our N2 link:
all BD have a counter that starts at 0, it goes up by 1 if theyâre on a Syndicate member at the end of the day and down by 1 if theyâre on a BD.
If it goes negative, the following bad things happen:
-Minus 1: The Syndicate finds out their class type group
-Minus 2: Their votes will not count for King
-Minus 3: There will be a secret extra vote on them that doesnât show (this stacks with another ability)
-Minus 4: They are occupied for the night
-Minus 5: They die
^^ This is important.
âŚJust realized that the self-vote makes perfect sense here.
Kyo didnât want people unvoting the Marshal wagon
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Keep what Arete said in mind because we really donât want to be voting town. Thatâs why we absolutely need discussion in order to have good lynches.
Now that I said it, itâs time to dunk on a scumteam member.
Aims gun at Wazza.
Did I actually catch him there?
Here is when Kyo first starts townreading Wazza, apparently. Pretty sudden, huh?
Wazza starts harddefending Kyo, using the same crutch Kyo has been using. âWhy would you do that as scum.â I have debunked it numerous times - scum can and will level. And now that we know one of the scum Omega Actions relies on town voting town, Kyoâs actions begin to make perfect sense.
This is off-topic, but it doesnât look like distancing to me. Maybe Squid is legitimately town and I should take her out of the PoE, replacing her with Wazza.
âŚYeah. I might want to do that.
EW. I hate this post so much. Heâs trying so hard to make Kyo look better. Heâs not even defending Kyo, just trying to make him look better because he probably knows the lynch will be cleaned.
Maybe Iâm getting confbiased here but this post really strikes me as scummy.
This is about Squid. Another EW. I feel like scum writes these posts way more frequently than town does. Why would you hate townreading someone as town? I suppose in some situations it might be annoying, but Wazza⌠didnât really have a basis for that feeling. Itâs not like he was scumreading Squid very hard before. This feels like heâs annoyed she looks like town now, or heâs trying to townread her so he can convince her not to attack Kyo.
Either way I donât quite believe there is a town motivation within that post.
He is relying really hard on us not knowing what Arete learned at the end of D2. Given what we learned, this line of reasoning in Wazzaâs accusations is scummy as hell. I understand that he might look really scummy because he didnât know and dug himself into a hole, but there are just⌠far too many scummy things. All of that added together and I canât possibly townread Wazza anymore.
The worst part is that there is much, much more.
He is still trying to make Kyo look better and correcting his posts. Why? Why is he ignoring the fact they are scummy if he seems to think they are scummy? Why would he want to stop/correct Kyo if he did not find these posts very scummy? Why is he fixing Kyoâs reputation for him?
I donât believe this is a town-motivated defense. Town doesnât know Kyoâs alignment and shouldnât ignore these signs. In fact, Wazza is obviously not ignoring the signs of Kyo being scummy - he is aware of them and yet he is intentionally ignoring them.
This and:
This and:
His interactions with Kyo feel lukewarm and weak, like heâs not trying to solve his alignment or get any information from him. I recognize these interactions as scummy because thatâs exactly the type of interactions I was going for with my scummates in LotR (specifically Arete, funnily enough).
This happened earlier, but in my opinion it only serves to make Shurian look even better.
Ozz noticed that in the meantime. I think that makes him even townier than he was before (from my perspective).
âŚWas he trying to get you to not investigate the Omega Action that is damning for the scumteam?
Like Iâve said before: Wazzaâs outlook on the game is quite narrow. He is trying to sell the narrative that a Marshal lynch gives us more information than a Kyo lynch, which is false. The fact one of the people who looks bad with a Kyo lynch is Wazza himself⌠that is particularly damning for Wazza. He is clearly pushing the idea of a Marshal lynch being more informative because a Marshal lynch doesnât spew or suggest Wazzaâs alignment. Basically, a Kyo lynch is bad for Wazza and Iâm convinced he knew this while writing that post.
Kyo also immediately followed up on the post in Wazzaâs stead. Why was he doing that instead of Wazza? âŚYeah, thatâs not a strong reason to scumread someone, but I donât like that in hindsight either.
I really didnât buy that backhanded excuse.
âŚIs he happy about that? This looks like a scumchat post given what we know about the Syndicateâs Omega Action now. 
âŚWhy are they playing like a team in these interactions? They are following up on each otherâs messages and trying to discredit me together, because Iâm hardpushing Kyo. The fact they are criticizing my PoE might also indicate there are scum members in the PoE (maybe a lot of them, even), although that is less certain. The important fact is that there is teamplay here. This is the second time they support each other without actually interacting with each other.
Still convinced Marshal is scum.
This looks like such an obvious distancing vote. âYeah Iâve been townreading you but you recently convinced me youâre scum, sorry but youâre getting voted.â
It feels like Wazza is attempting to justify the vote way too hard, as if he is hoping not to demolish his somewhat towny status. Additionally, he did not even interact with Kyo or refer to his posts between his message to me (which I quoted earlier) and his vote on Kyo. It feels like the change of heart happened inside his mind and outside of the thread. While it might be okay normally, the fact heâs not transparent with his thought process and overly careful on the wagons does not make me feel good about his slot.
TL;DR Holy hell this wall is long. I think Wazza is super scum with Kyo. In contrast, Ozz and Shurian look very good. Even Squid looks pretty good - I should replace her with Wazza in the PoE.
This is BS they never said anything like that in thread logs and neither does their classcard
Arete said that to me in link and Marshal can confirm it. They figured it out using their ability that allows them to find out more about a specific Omega Action.
They intentionally didnât follow Wazzaâs suggestion and it ended up being highly important.
Donât try to discredit me here, blackmailer.
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