[SFoL] SFoL 58: Virtuous II — Return of the Fallen — FINALE -- Day 5 (4/16): Imperial Triumph — The Hand of Byzantium, The Fool, and The Strigoi Win!

Because I can’t redirect you if you are Heroine.

/vote CRichard564

I believe he is Ifirit to me, you want kpn reduced, feel free to jail Arete.

I am not trying to be smart here, it’s logical you want kpn reduced.

Vote Count

Votee Voted by Votes
Frostwolf103 Ami, Arete 2/7
CRichard564 Frostwolf103 1/7
Currently Abstaining Vulgard, Chloe, darth_tabor, Italy, Wazza, EVO, CRichard564, Amelia, Napoleon 10

ping me if i miss any votes

personally I love how half the court has decided I’m groupscum and literally no one has a coherent theory about how

I feel like 80% of people alive have some wolf equity. Amelia, EVO and Darth are my villagers.

Frost is probably NK. He doesn’t seem to fit into any team of three.
Ami is Senex and as such irrelevant to finding groupscum. Even if she is BD-aligned, proper groupscum have to be targeted first.

Italy, Wazza, Richard, Napoleon, Arete, Chloe.

Come to think of it, let me bring you all back to this point I made earlier – about Italy being uninterested in the wagons close to EoD2.

What were the wagons again?

We had this, and then we had the push on Derps.

Both were villagers.

Of course a wolf would be content and disinterested. And considering the fact Italy fits in basically any world of three (any two people we suspect can be Italy’s partners without many issues), their wolf equity rises dramatically in hindsight. I correctly suspected that wagons could’ve been V/V, now we know it for sure. Italy’s lack of interest back then is wolfy as hell.

The only way this doesn’t make Italy a wolf is if Darth was converted night 1, which… admittedly isn’t something I can figure out, I think. But with the assumption Darth is still Marshal (and let’s face it, converting Darth night 1 would’ve been a strange play), Italy is a likely wolf based on that behavior around the wagons on day 2.

And you said nothing about it? :wink:

You were planning to do this earlier.

wait vul why did you go from townreading me to scumreading me? what did i do differently today but claim

Arete, you are suspected because for whatever reason, scum got really comfortable after D2, and D2 was when you got basically pushed into town core because of nappys word on healing you, etc. Its more about who was killed than your actions. Although, your recent and abrupt split vote, and swap between 2 people tell me something.

or is that just a list of people you dont have “confirmed” as townie

Is that right, you decide to gossip me and see if Visionary is dumb enough to do that so you can be confirmed?

I think:
Frost/Crich=Nk
Arete and/or Nappy = groupscum

But I’m not done with ISOs yet

The problem is that all of these could easily be Italy’s partners.

Says this, but doesn’t push it. Doesn’t push it now, either. It feels partnery to me. Wolfreading someone without properly pushing them is frequently done between wolves.

…That is what I would say, if not for the fact they both claim healer, which is extremely strange. From that point of view, Nappy is probably legit and Italy was trying to shade him there. I really think Italy has much more wolf equity than Nappy.

Could be Visionary, ngl. Being jailed night 2 as Visionary would not be a huge deal, considering they probably converted night 1.

This post sounds like a wolf who is happy about staying under the radar.

Italy has interacted more with Arete than with other people today, and I wonder why. Are these wolves talking? I think I’d have to read Arete’s side to figure that out.

This especially feels partnery. But again, I need to read Arete’s side here.

And then we have this push, which leads people away from Italy and Arete (to a lesser extent). :thinking:

I really hate these Arete interactions. Yeah, pretty sure Italy is a wolf, and I need to read Arete’s side to figure out if Arete is a wolf too.

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I’m just going through my village reads to figure out the deepwolf. I excluded Amelia, EVO and Darth because these reads are way too strong for me to re-eval upon. Darth is Marshal, EVO argued with me in a really villagery way, and Amelia has been a billboard villager to me all game.

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Crich’s lackluster contributions today are NAGL, honestly. If you’re a villager, please contribute.

…in case you didn’t notice I was basically the only person trying to prevent the D2 mislynch

but let’s talk about this

in a hypothetical scum!Arete world what could I even conceivably be

Sulit was jailed wasn’t she?

I will say that tonally, Arete screams “wolf” to me, so my read might be inherently biased.

And this crutch argument specifically feels to me like a starting wolf gambit. If my earlier theory about the Heroine finding sulit as neutral night 1 is correct, then Arete is probably the groupscum member who orchestrated it. The only hole is that they couldn’t have known in advance they would hit a neutral in the night, so I suppose announcing a bounty on day 1… wouldn’t… work.

Hmm. Arete might not be starting groupscum after all. Then what was Italy doing? Buddying?

…Is there a way a BD can make a fake bounty on night 1? As far as I remember, only Noble can, and Noble is a converted class.

Jail executed and turned out to be a fool in fact.