[SFoL] SFoL 58: Virtuous II — Return of the Fallen — FINALE -- Day 5 (4/16): Imperial Triumph — The Hand of Byzantium, The Fool, and The Strigoi Win!

exactly

I’ve just figured that out, holy hell.
Arete can’t be groupscum. Any worlds with Arete as wolf don’t work unless we think Arete’s converted, and their tone hasn’t really changed to reflect conversion.

*day 2

Starting Groupscum, or if either nappy or italy is legit, maybe even N1 convert, assuming the Marshal died to NK, meaning nappy would be fake, but you are partnery with Italy, so something is missing here

Wait, nvm, you could be N1 convert either way, one converts, other kills marshal

No, no, no. Given what Arete did on day 1, they would instantly be outed on day 2 as soon as their Bounty didn’t work. There’s not a single starting BD class which can fake a bounty. At worst, Arete is converted, but I didn’t see the signs of that. Converting someone who openclaimed seems risky to me.

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If they knew he got that bounty off he’d basically be confirmed Aristo even if converted n1

High Risk High Reward

Arete is a villager. I’m realizing this really late, but their play simply doesn’t make sense as wolf. It would always lead to them outing themselves, or would force them to bus day 2, which doesn’t make sense either.

Arete and Marshal were the only two people who openclaimed day 1, as far as I remember. Besides, Arete was an extremely likely scout target. They wouldn’t risk it.

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except I can’t be converted N1 unless you think Chloe’s a wolf

yeet

Yeah, I don’t think it’s impossible, but it would be risky to attack marshal with enforcer claim on them

Wdym

Napoleon said that Marshal is attacked by fire nation Heroine, so would that explain that NK hit a Neut instead?

If I am NK, why did I go against lynching Sulit and suggested axe instead? Her logs and actions are bad it can’t be groupscum, so if I did hit her N1 then how do I know they were not any other neut scum? I am most confident of Rebel qualities on Sulit and her handmaiden claim fits together to me, that lynching is bad and shouldn’t be left unattended. A rebel is harmless except for votes.

Chloe says she was on me

No one claimed bled D2

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To avoid suspicion if she didn’t get 100% pushed

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Why would they want Noble in first place.

Wazza could just be a wolf, honestly. I thought about clearing him before because of the thing he found about Arete, which supposedly contradicted their results… but now that I’m sure Arete is a villager, that reason for the clear no longer applies.

Besides, I feel like Wazza is one of the most likely partners of Italy, and I could see him failing to select a fake visit target on night 2 as Visionary.

Richard is a wildcard and him being frozen all day until now is not a good look.

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Chloe was on you N1?