[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[anon6348071]

Current VC

Voted	Voters	Votes
Vulgard	Intensify, SirDerpsALot	2/14
Leafia	Soulshade55r, Italy, PsychoKang	3/14
Chloe	Surge, Vulgard	2/14
PokemonKidRyan	Zone_Q11	1/14
ATNoName	clonedcheese	1/14
SirDerpsALot	Frostwolf103	1/14
an_gorta_pratai	Centuries	1/14
PsychoKang	Moleland	1/14
Alice	PokemonKidRyan, Insanity	2/14
Magnus	Light	1/14
Surge	Leafia, Whysper, Wazza	3/14
Light	TheBlueElixir	1/14
Insanity	Alice, Chloe	2/14

Ping me if there are mistakes.

[Insanity]

@Alice

Literally anyone who’s played at least one game with me knows that I’m the kind of person who tries to build a towncore d1. Again, point to a game where I didn’t build a towncore d1?

Yes, you do, but the problem is that you give multiple towncred rapidly. usually you would also do some in depth analysis too, but in here, you didn’t do that.

[N.1]

@Wazza

‘I like this’
‘Vulgard is probably Rand T’

You’re practically planting seeds.

for the record, i’ve accepted the fact that i’ll never be able to accurately read alice. she’s too potent at being dominant regardless of alignment. i’m fine with that early on, though.

[ATNoName]

the only mech we should rely on is how many scums from both sides are there and what did the converter do in the past

[Alice]

@Wazza

To show that I’m paying attention in this game for once unlike other games?

…this accomplishes nothing, and if you’re V then this just makes you look like a wolf who’s struggling to generate content.

Now start actually playing the game rather than posturing and whining that I’m SR’ing you.

[Alice]

@N.1

please don’t break fm rules, intensify

…this is breadcrumbing, not using codes.

Also start talking regarding reads. So far since you’ve returned up to here most of your posts don’t advance the gamestate in any way whatsoever.

[Zone_Q11]

@Wazza

@Zone_Q11

There; are you happy now? I have my own “reason” to believe that PKR is scum.

Then post it?

@Zone_Q11

–you know what? Sure. Here’s a fake reason: He voted Alice, who I townread.

…? Did you skip over my “reason”?

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@Wazza

I didn’t influence the thread by posting a Nullread about you. I was told to post my reads so I extracted every player I mentioned in my post and put them into a readslist. Read the context before accusing.

@Wazza

Anyway, in conclusion reading these posts was more of a chore if anything else.

@Alice

Do you have any reads from them?

Okay. I admit you are correct about this part.

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@Wazza

@Zone_Q11

Where do you think we are going? Which direction?

I think we’re going to end the day with a parity lynch close/as a rand with around 8 other wagons or more.

Really now? Even though there were three-man and even five-man wagons in the past?

[Frostwolf103]

@TheBlueElixir

I have no clue what your trying but I saw the word fun fact and deja vu

and your bleeding anyway

Oh?

[Alice]

@Alice

Intensify’s tone so far looks pretty good, probs putting him as a light townlean.

@Alice

TBE being carefree looks fairly villagery as well so far.

@Alice

Vulgard looks to actually believe his own reads as of p97. Probs >rand V if I had to guess.

@Alice

Chloe’s reasoning here is… meh.

It’s kind of obvious that the wording meant the wolf faction that didn’t bleed Vul.

And nobody ever fucking bleeds a player, especially someone like Vul, this early as town. In general looks to be like her trying to find wolfy posts rather than posts made by a wolf.

@Alice

…Zone looks to be a villager for being so damn brazen like this.

@Alice

…Seth looks to unfortunately be a villager for his unprodded aggression and wild reads.

I literally posted why I made those reads alongside with them. This is pretty much as much analysis as you can expect from me early d1.

[Alice]

Shrug.

I’m probably going to get NK’d n1 or n2, so I wouldn’t worry much about reading my slot.

[Alice]

Dumb read, but N would probably try harder to meld in if he were a wolf. Kind of not wanting him dead at the moment.

[N.1]

@Alice

I’m probably going to get NK’d n1 or n2, so I wouldn’t worry much about reading my slot.

for the record
if you are town, sometimes wolves will just leave you alone in hopes of getting you mis-jettisoned
we tried that in CFM2

yes i am working on reads

[N.1]

@Alice

Also start talking regarding reads. So far since you’ve returned up to here most of your posts don’t advance the gamestate in any way whatsoever.

i’ve been going back through the thread, so far i’m about 60% through and i haven’t felt like i’ve gained much, so sure, i’ve developed some reads.

as you should be aware, I never make huge readlists like you do. I get comfortable with a small quantity, and i stick with them.

Strong town reads:

Zone: Incredibly brazen and irritable, constantly quarreling with the usual suspects like leafia and seth, and I just get a familiar feel off of what he is doing this game.

TBE: RT-dominated, tons of short ISO’ing, extremely active and focused. This is in contrast to BotF 3 where he just sat back for most of the game.

Intensify: Short, direct, and bold like I remember, claims bled, lots of short ISO’s like TBE, very solvey and focused mindset.

that is all for the strong town category, i may have feelings for slight town, null, and dislike

[Alice]

In CFM2 I was a SK intentionally pocketing the wolfteam. Here BD and HoB kind of need to get rid of me as I’m Unseen and so of course I’ll lynch them rather than try to pocket them.

[N.1]

fair, you did pocket us extremely potently

[Wazza]

@Zone_Q11

…? Did you skip over my “reason”?

No? You specifically stated it was a fake reason, why would I care?

@Zone_Q11

Really now? Even though there were three-man and even five-man wagons in the past?

yes, positive.

[Zone_Q11]

@Wazza

Quite a lot of things that really don’t need explaining.

So you surely don’t need an explanation as to why people are allowed to take Alice’s side as well, right?
We don’t need an explanation of why Insanity skipped over and altered Chloe’s and Alice’s words.
We don’t need to explain why everyone else but you believes that Surge is “obv!town”.

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@Wazza

he has scumbuddies who can easily tell him to do something like that.

He has; not “he might have”?
–also, why couldn’t he say the same words as town?
Why do you think he has to know that the same slip was done in the past before?

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@Wazza

Ah yes, so you’re going to also say that me saying SDA claimed bleeding, when I didn’t say that at all, isn’t sarcasm also?

–you did say that though, and you confused “people who might be town” in the process of your sarcasm. …I thought you wanted to prevent town confusion, yet you make sarcasms that not everyone can understand?

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@Wazza

How do I seem like the OMGUS when I’m the one who started it all? That makes literally no sense. Did you even read any of it?

You were the one who started “it all”? I thought it was:

• You made the IioA post.
• Alice made you give reads based off “the posts you have read”.
• You gave partial readslist, omitted the ones you didn’t mention in the IioA post.
• Alice questioned your reads, and in extension your initial IioA post.

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@Wazza

@Zone_Q11

I fail to see why you quoted me instead of tagging @Insanity instead.

what

• Zone: Hey Insanity, read my readlist
• Insanity: Okay. …hey, why did you scumread Wazza?
• Zone: Read that in another post of mine.
• Wazza:

@Wazza

you can scumread me since you literally explained it.

However, I did respond to those points.

• Zone: Um… I was talking to Insanity, why are you suddenly interrupting us?

[N.1]

Slight town reads:

Vulgard: yes, he claimed bled early, and if that is true, that means there’s an 88.5% chance of him being town. However, everything I’ve seen from him so far, I know he’s fully capable of doing as both alignments, and those odds just aren’t good enough on their own for him to be strong town, since every player in the game has a 76.9% chance of being starting town.

(i might have more slight town reads, just posting this for now as I’m confident in it. need to think some more)

[ATNoName]

Last ISO for D1: Soul ISO (was gonna be cloned but 8 posts, voting me, and vague TR and SR just turned me off)

ISO

Soul is super jumpy unlike FOL29 where its like she wants to conserve posts. Like Soul went from calling TBE a scum to voting Leafia in like no time. However I do like this:

@Soulshade55r

I don’t like how you are playing the “it’s my self meta card”

Explain to me why you think people should town read you off the basis that you wouldn’t put yourself in the open as scum.

Just comes across as disingenuous to me and that your not actually trying to clear yourself for helping town, making reads, pushing others ect.

I had pointed out the “nobody is defending her”, but now it looks like its more of an excuse for me to not yeet her.

The rest is Soul/Leafia thunderdome which is complicated considering I never seen Soul do this and Leafia being so defensive and reliance on meta.

Conclusion: Null

[Wazza]

@Zone_Q11

• You made the IioA post.

My lioA post pointed suspicion at Alice.

I’ll respond to the rest soon, brb.