[SFoL] SFoL 67: Last Stand of the Virtuous III - Endgame - The Unseen and The Senex are victorious!

[PokemonKidRyan]

Ciri.
Because I want to rip my hair out when reading their posts and genuinely don’t know how to read them.
Also since it’s our first day able to vote, it’s basically a PL.

[Intensify]

I doubt all of the 2.6K are relevant.

I’ve glanced over indivual ISOs to see if any interesting and most of them follow a similar pattern of “Fluff, slightly interesting, fluff” or something like that

[YoubutWorse]

i am able to be here because i just died on an almost 4 hour long zombie run

anyway itll be coconut, mainly because of the kinda rolefishy thing they did yesterday where they asked for more prestiege. They haven’t been too towny today either but thats mainly whats sticking out in my mind

/vote Coconut @EliThePsycho

[ATNoName]

if they aren’t relevant, we won’t have made GGhana openwolf.

[Emilia]

@PokemonKidRyan

Because I want to rip my hair out when reading their posts and genuinely don’t know how to read them.

wouldnt that be leafia

[Intensify]

What’s the VC right now?

[Intensify]

Seth

[Emilia]

@Wazza

Unofficial Votecount (however, it’s correct)

Voted	Voters	Count
CoconutsTasteBad	clonedcheese, Leafia, Wazza, Whysper, Bacon	5/9
Ciri	Intensify	1/9
PKR	Emilia, Ciri	2/9
Wazza	CoconutsTasteBad	1/9
Not voting	ATNoName, YoubutWorse, Gorta, PKR, Amelia, Aelin, GGhana

this

[Emilia]

how much time is there in the day

[Intensify]

Oh dope.

VC here.

I wanna keep on Coconut on 6/9 since haha funny number but also it’s a good place in terms of pressure.

2/3 on your way to death should be enough pressure to get them to do things or express thoughts.

[YoubutWorse]

@PokemonKidRyan

Ciri.
Because I want to rip my hair out when reading their posts and genuinely don’t know how to read them.
Also since it’s our first day able to vote, it’s basically a PL.

Thats fair as well, out of the 4 wagons so far I’d want either coconut or ciri dead. Def not wazza and maybe not PKR

[Intensify]

We have.

uhh

20 more hours I think?

[EliThePsycho]

Votecount

Voted	Voters	Count
CoconutsTasteBad	clonedcheese, Leafia, Wazza, Whysper, Bacon, YoubutWorse	6/9
Ciri	Intensify	1/9
PKR	Emilia, Ciri	2/9
Wazza	CoconutsTasteBad	1/9
Not voting	ATNoName, YoubutWorse, Gorta, PKR, Amelia, Aelin, GGhana

Ping eli & arctic if there is anything incorrect

[Bacon_is_Executed]

@Intensify

Townlean
Bacon

Nice, also I bit my tongue and it hurts

[Bacon_is_Executed]

Nice

[ATNoName]

alright then, I challenge you to read Whysper’s ISO.

[Intensify]

I mean, I already have so weh

[ATNoName]

I seriously don’t recall, so do it again :).

[Intensify]

Bruh moment.

[Intensify]

There’s some weird posts in Whysper’s ISO to be honest. They aren’t even scummy or towny really, but are kinda weirdly out of place to me.

@Whysper

BTW, did anyone get revealed as an alt of someone? Just wondering so I have better context on reading posts.

@Whysper

@CoconutsTasteBad

Bacon is brand new to FM

Oh, and how about you, Coconuts? I saw a read list that makes me think you aren’t new.

@Whysper

@Aelin

hes being stupid

BTW, I only “liked” this post cause it was fun how direct it was. I don’t particularly condone it though.

Some posts that are technically relevant, but I don’t have much to say about cause they can go 50/50

@Whysper

@Ciri

kinda getting w vibes from Intensify

@Intensify

@Ciri

kinda getting w vibes from Intensify
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Alright, can you explain this?

@Ciri

/vote intensify

the more they post the more i want them to die

Ciri, so can you explain the thing about W vibes for Intensify? You didn’t really explain even when questioned on it, and then just proceeded to vote for him (yeah, that ended up being meaningless since no execution D1, but you intended to vote).

@Whysper

@Intensify

Anyways.

Imma go do what I originally planned to do and go look at past Leafia games.

I currently have 4 tabs open, 1 for each game.

Deus Ex 4 - Leafia Scumgame
SFoL 65 - Leafia Scumgame
Wild West - Leafia Towngame
Joat^2 - Leafia Towngame

I’ll get back to this thread soon once I read through and analyze everything.

@Leafia

Stupid phone updating without warning. What Intensify is doing now is a good look for him honestly.

I was leaning Intensify as town earlier for his posts, which felt like he was getting right into questioning and solving. But now this post feels weird. He is giving too much detail into his process like he wants to particularly highlight his efforts. It would have been enough to just say he’s going back to looking into Leafia.

@Whysper

Hmmm, okay, possibly. I don’t feel like that. But maybe an argument could be made for that. Right now I’m only reducing my TR on Intensify slightly for it. I still have more in favor of him being town.

I don’t have much to say about these posts though. Like they go either way, someone can analyze them I guess but there’s not much to really conclude off of.

@Whysper

Haha, funny you should ask since I have you as my top wolf read. Well, other than Frost just for being King.

Though I’m trying to reevaluate you based on this maybe being the way you normally post.

As for town reads, I have Ciri, GGhana, and Gorta.

These reads just kinda… springed out of nowhere.

With no explanation.

She does eventually explain these reads, but I don’t think any of the reasoning is good.

@Whysper

@Emilia

And why is that?(all reads except gghana one)

@Emilia

Actually give reason for gghana read too

Well, the SR on you is that it seems like you are jumping at SRing people for very little. Like Bacon. I think there was another. And then it seems like you were nitpicking the arguments against your reads. Which I think Aelin expressed nicely as it seeming like you are trying to bog down the talk with that. But then someone expressed how this is kind of just how you are, so I left there with the thought to reeval you at some point.

Ciri has posts with good takes and also good tips/suggestions/comments on optimal town play.

GGhana’s aggressive stance right away, and then stuff like the interaction with you on the Bacon read, felt like town for him.

Gorta claiming bleed and then showing this frustration seems more likely town.

Like.

Read on GGhana isn’t too imrpessive.
Emotion read on Gorta is meh.
And Ciri read is ???

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@GGhana

@Whysper

Gorta claiming bleed and then showing this frustration seems more likely town.
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Can you explain why?

@GGhana

It’s purely NAI imo

Gorta would be pissed regardless of his actual alignment

The type of things he said for his frustration felt more likely from him as town. He expressed how he’d been banned and just coming back and finally getting a chance to play through a game. The way he said that appears more like he was planning a game of solving.

Also, I think less frustration might have come out here directly since as wolf he’d likely express frustration there first and maybe tempered things as they considered what to do about the bleed and how it affects them.

I also like, generally disagree with her reasoning on Gorta.

Gorta can feel just as frustrated to be bled as scum as he is town.

Hell, even more frustrated, since he knows it comes from Poacher or NK.

@Whysper

Yeah, and they are probably an alt, so can’t be excused as just newbie not knowing what to post.

Kinda shady, with no like real conclusions.

@Whysper

I also had some similar thoughts about Intensify seeming performative at times.

Apparently Whysper had thoughts about my posts feeling “performative” a while back, but never mentions this?

[quote=“Whysper, post:3733, topic:88241, full:true”]
So I’ve seen YBW in at least a couple PoEs, which is good. But I don’t think I’ve seen any discussion on them. I’m finding that their posts feel performative, especially surrounding the GGhana GT.

@YoubutWorse

DO NOT hammer this, let at least like 12 hours pass before then to let people come in on thread

@YoubutWorse

can we still not hammer like pretty please? hammering can be fine sometimes but everytime we hammer we go “all right we did it! lets do it again” and then we hammer 3 town in a row with each day being less than an hour long

I don’t want town to do this shit again, so for the love of god if you have executed on gghana unvote now

DONT FUCKING HAMMER

@YoubutWorse

I still want other people to come to thread and say shit, we shouldn’t just end day because we arent doing anything right now , day is for discussion and we should use it for that. Just because we have nothing to discuss now doesn’t mean we wont later

@YoubutWorse

how many times do I have to tell people to unvote before a single person does

@YoubutWorse

@EliThePsycho

|Execute GGhana|GGhana, ATNoName, Bacon, Intensify, CoconutsTasteBad, Leafia|6/9
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I am going to scream

@YoubutWorse

THIS ISNT WHAT I MEANT AHHHHHHHHH

im gonna leave thread and watch hollow knight and if i come back and gghana was hammered im gonna become the joker

@YoubutWorse

may i ask why I come back to thread and gghana has 6 pardons?

This isnt what i meant by don’t hammer

I really don’t think there was much of a threat of people hammering. People seemed aware of it and were backing off as appropriate. And YBW didn’t bother getting into the actual discussion of whether to execute or pardon GGhana while in the thread at the time. Just complained about the hammer possibility.

her first real like push really, and it’s an ok analysis of YBW, but I feel like it needs more.

ISO has posts that are technically about the game, they aren’t really AI.

Some of them are just posting information, others are asking questions, answering stuff, etc.

It’s a wierd slot, but the spring reads with no progression or real good reasoning is kinda ticking me off about this slot.