SFoL62 - Regal Lions - Cult and Oneiromancer Victory!

the only thing it does is make sure we wouldnt elect a scum king

but the risk of electing a scum king to make sure we elect a town king is worth

I mean, itā€™s better than a scum king, thatā€™s for sure.

I donā€™t think theyā€™d really be ā€œforcedā€ to work with us. Itā€™s not super likely thereā€™s another role that can kill a Lord, and weā€™re not going to waste a day on them.

Itā€™s still way better if we can make a villager into a Lord.

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Actually skipped that post.
Electing Oneiromancer as King is literally -EV both for us and for them?
-They canā€™t guard themselves;
-They are neutral and therefore can scumside;
-They have no reason to fully cooperate with us.

Yeah but it doesnā€™t fully negate the risk of this neutral king deciding to eventually scumside.
Which are pretty similar in the end.

for example these posts

theyā€™re making a read but at same time it really isnt

usually this is scum behavior because they are less willing to take strong stances on people

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all of us out here debating whether we should elect a noot for king in an election we dont know will happen while Emilia out here solving

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I mean healing kinda works as guards. They are neutral yes, but like I said, they are bound to have a townie in their droom ball meaning they canā€™t really side scum without giving up the town. They do have a reason since 1. we can threaten (though this is not preferable and I would like to work with Arete for town sakes) 2. we know they are important and will probably have some healers on them, meaning they have some reason to cooperate

DI and healing are quite different.
Also we might not even have protectives/healers, while electing someone as King grants them charges of Guards.
ā€œGiving up townā€ doesnā€™t really matter since scum will be aiming to kill off town anyway ā€“ so if they put main TRā€™s into the sphere, they should expect that some of them are probably going to be attacked.

To be fair I already gave most of my thoughts today.
Not to mention that Iā€™d prefer for this theoretical election discussion to happen now as opposed to during actual election, because scum can probably take advantage of chaos and fearmonger/pressure us into splitting votes.

How about

We shut up about King shit
We dont poison Seth - because more likely then not they are just being a stupid townie

And we deal with that when it happens

Sound good?
Sounds good

Glad weā€™re in agreement

This all feels like a pointless distraction

Ayaya

Yeh Chloe is right, probably better to keep Seth around, I trust them anyways, and was only kinda jumping the idea of poisoning King if we got a confirmed person there to clear all doubt

Except unlike the ā€œwhy did you lie about Alliesā€ ā€œI didnā€™t lie in Allies!ā€ talk, this one is actually useful instead of being a distraction.
Because like I literally just said:

if the poison actually happens.

Also if arete scumread me
Why would they out that

Why would they not just
Allow me to continue being townread, and add me to bubble - if they think im scum

It makes no sense and i dont get it

Just king a townie

4head

ā€¦Because at that time they were still masquerading as a Commoner and felt the need to contribute as we were questioning them numerous times?

After they outted as OwOmancer they said they still view my read as fake

Keyword being ā€œstillā€.
Either way Iā€™ll let them answer this question as well, since I cannot read their mind.

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stop

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I just know if i were in that situation
I wouldnt call out someone you view as scummy (who other people dont) as scummy
And i would instead just
Add them to the sphere
So you have a higher chance of winning with both sides
And that scummy person wont kill you

Idk if im explaining this well
But i just dont get what arete did

You said it yourself.
My short time in WoW BfA.
I did not have time to really read you then, I do now.
Comparing them is crazy.

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I just feel like you would know that you cant use insurgency as a solid basis
Because last time it didnt work out

But yes, you were in the game for a short amt of time