I mean when I read through those I legitimately thought Jane slipped that he knew PK was a Blizer ult and I was gonna have to replace out, but then I saw Blizer was also in game
What is this supposed to mean, āultā
alt*
as in alternate account
Probably mispelt Alt. An alt is where someone plays a game under another name, mainly to avoid recognition.
oh yeah, I dont see where ur coming from, but understandable.
I assume the Executioner is a power role, given theyāre a guaranteed spawn.
However, while I like the concern, I think itās unjustified. The Executioner can answer those questions too!
Alright, so I have woken up and I have already caught up on the thread.
Thoughts so far:
- Seth is just town. Iāve seen people saying his takes are weird/his readlist makes no sense, but unfortunately this is absolutely within town Sethās range. His discussion with PKR and decision to give 4 weakest players the lynch sound like precisely the thing he would do in your average game. I know this is more of a meta read (and his meta is evolving from what Iāve seen), but as scum Seth just doesnāt exist. In 61 where half of the thread correctly scumread him early on, he was scum King as well and he literally posted twice/thrice, made a decision that was backed up with IIoA and then dipped. I donāt really see the resemblance here.
- Chloe seems fine so far. I wouldnāt go as far as to locktown her, but in both scum games of hers that I witnessed I was able to scumread her rather easily. Her attitude here is alright and nothing really feels manufactured or staged, like it did in her scum games.
- PKRās opener was indeed weird, but his slot is actually improving imo ā the vibes I got from his and Sethās argument were āfrustrated townā. In general, want to see a bit more from him, but heās a slight TL for now.
- Jane had some interesting posts, but I think they are town for now. From my experience with them, they tend to be hyper when they get a neutral or scum, and while this Jane is active, it doesnāt quite feel on the same level? The post about Seth/PKR not being W/W is the one that a lot of you found off, but I think Jane has made similar assessments early on as well. Also, in my experience (again, this is just turbos, iirc they havenāt had an actual scum game in over a year?) Jane seems to be pockety and try to push agenda when they are scum. Of course, thereās not much to push on D1, but none of their posts really read like efforts to sway the thread.
- Arete is a hard null so far. Nothing Iāve seen from them couldnāt be faked, none of their takes display any hard stances ā which is fine, since itās early on. Still, want more from this slot and will judge it appropriately off of what they do later on.
- Reading back, I actually liked Blizer. His āaggressionā seems towny (and I wouldnāt call it aggression to begin with), he was also one of the three people who actually aimed to make the thread progress. While that in itself is NAI, I feel like itās still worth mentioning.
- Unknownās opener was a hard null, but going down there were some of the posts that I didnāt like, and one in particular that I would like to question (which is what Iām going to do below). It is probably a bit too early to judge, but I really want this slot to interact with most other players for reasons.
Semi-related questions/quotes that I wanted to discuss:
This one reads like Gortaās typical posts? Nothing really pings me even though that opinion switch happened, it kinda reminds me of his Alice tinfoil in 61 which he posted despite not believeing in it.
This postā¦ Exists. @UnknownTraveler would you mind elaborating as to why you wrote this? I.e. what was your intention ā to clarify and acknowledge that your opener was meh orā¦?
Because to me this looks like unprompted defense that wasnāt really aimed at anyone, and was just posted for the sake of being posted ā if that explanation makes sense.
Lord (King) generally should be left for last imo. While Lords are stronger than Kings on average in this setup, I still think itās fine to not bother with Seth ā not to mention that I think heās town like I said above.
I asked for Janeās/Areteās opinion in that post because the two were most prominent and present in the thread at that time.
Last but not least, readlist:
TRās/TLās:
Seth
Chloe
Jane
PKR
CRichard
Blizer
Gorta
Highway_101
Nulls:
Arete
PsychoKang
Centuries
Wazza
EightySecond
Mathmods
Apprentice
SLās/SRās:
UnknownTraveler
Zeroposter:
Magnus
Feel free to ask me if you want any details/explanations on it.
To be honest I donāt really like those questions because they could in theory out actual healers.
So I will skip the first one and answer your other two:
If you were a vig, who would you shoot tonight?
No one, because itās too early.
If you were a invest, who would you check tonight?
WIFOM between you/one of my nulls.
Meh I still think he can be GS.
Seth do you have any hot takes so far?
Iām mostly interested to hear who do you SL or suspect (aside from Eighty).
pls eval my hot take on Jane (not the initial W/W stuff, the stuff I recently posted)
Jane asks Blizer for reads and PsychoKang responds and Jane just goes with it
like doesnāt readdress Blizer at all
i didnt notice this when reading thru thread earlier tbh
i dont like earlygame tinfoils but i dont think its bad
i mostly disliked his W/W thingy but hes not like
straight up scum from these things
just funktastic vibes, ya feel
sorry
replace he with they
sorry
Seth do you have any hot takes so far?
Iām mostly interested to hear who do you SL or suspect (aside from Eighty).
Centuries.
You mean the take that started with this?
Jane asks Blizer for reads and PsychoKang responds and Jane just goes with it
I donāt find it particularly weird because āJane just goes with itā felt more like an attempt to engage with someone while they are waiting for Blizer.
like doesnāt readdress Blizer at all
like thatās weird
I suppose itās weird, but itāsā¦ not something that bothers me that much? I actually want to re-ISO Jane after I respond to you, I have a feeling that I mightāve missed it, but I think this question to Blizer was asked shortly before Jane left? Might be wrong.
I think itās the fact that he immediately responds feels like they might be used to talking in scumchat but yeah it does look worse for Jane than PK
Addressed the W/W assessment which was a thing, on the scumchat tinfoil ā I kinda disagree for the reasons I state d above.
felt more like an attempt to engage with someone while they are waiting for Blizer.
Not going to bother quoting the prior wallpost. Too big. Not a big fan on how a majority of your explained reads seem to be largely off of meta, but that seems to be a recurring thing here.
To be honest I donāt really like those questions because they could in theory out actual healers.
So I will skip the first one and answer your other two:If you were a vig, who would you shoot tonight?
No one, because itās too early.
If you were a invest, who would you check tonight?
WIFOM between you/one of my nulls.
This sticks out to me though, because the logic makes no sense?
This same logic can be applied to the vig/cop question, if answering the first question ārisks outting healersā then why would the second and third not risk outting vigilantes and cops?
To be honest I donāt really like those questions because they could in theory out actual healers.
So I will skip the first one and answer your other two:If you were a vig, who would you shoot tonight?
No one, because itās too early.
If you were a invest, who would you check tonight?
WIFOM between you/one of my nulls.
Name all your nulls
And you keep stating you arenāt the only one that reads me as EK when you can clearly see my response to you about āGortaā should indicate and make it clear enough to you that Iām aware you arenāt the only fuckin one and I think you do realize that your just using it as an excuse.
scum can defend town and try to pocket them I am pretty sure Chloe tried this in WoWFM
I am not the only one considering him being EK.
Thatās true, I suspect Seth as the EK and the last time I did it I was correct, but I wonāt say I am super correct here
an_gorta_pratai (Null) - Nothing much to say, Gorta appears to be one of those types who donāt type much, but idk. Opinions gonna change later probably
I am the resident slanker with gut reads, but my gut reads are pretty decent I would say
why are you appealing specifically to arete/jane
I see that youāre talking with them consistently based on earlier posts, but why are you interested in discussing w/ them in the first place
I really do like this post from highway wouldnāt be surprised if this is an alt, but enough of that. Why hasnāt anyone else asked this question?
UnknownTraveller
Why in the hell is this your top town read? Do you have any reason why?
posting readlists.
I usually donāt give full readlists, as itās easier and better for me to focus on individual players and give reads in that way.
I mean Iām just hoping itās not a Cult game, cult alts still kinda confuse and these cult points are wierd
This post seems way too odd. I wonāt say this is a wolf, but I really donāt like this post because if you are town you wonāt have to worry about the cult alts and point bs. You arenāt likely to even get converted because they usually go for players like Arete and such.
an_gorta_pratai - Has not talked that I have seen.
Hello, I am usually a low poster, but I will post more this game, unless something comes up
it kinda reminds me of his Alice tinfoil in 61 which he posted despite not believeing in it.
That was a tinfoil, while I didnāt really like Unknownās opening posts and I still donāt really like them
pls eval my hot take on Jane (not the initial W/W stuff, the stuff I recently posted)
Ok, let me look at it
Jane asks Blizer for reads and PsychoKang responds and Jane just goes with it
like doesnāt readdress Blizer at all
If psycho is GS I would be surprised because they seem like newbtown, but I donāt think interactions like this should be dismissed. I have done what Psycho has done here as town before, but yeah I wonāt call it a terrible read
So Iāve seen a few people SL/suspect Cent right off the bat and he did have a few underwhelming posts, but later on, he felt like he was genuinely let down/frustrated that people scumread him off the bat.
Of course frustration can come from scum, but it didnāt feel that off to me? Hence why Centuries is in my upper nulls for now.