Shortnight 2: Return of the POGGERS - Day 5 [6/15] - Mafoa win, Everybody (including chloe) loses

Leafia is easy to read in regards to her reads and reasonings, and its cause shes a level 1 player in regards to this

Is she mindlessly just fucking sheeping, and using other peoples reads as her own, shes pretty much a wolf lol

is she actually like reading and coming up with her own thoughts (which she was actually doing day 1)
Town

i know its bad, trust me it is, but thats kind of Leafia in a nutshell here.

and this isnt really my like take on it

this a view everyone like knows and follows pretty much

could she be getting coached, espically day 1, yes she could be, but like

yeah, Leafia is just an easy read

Could you point some of this out to me? From what I’ve seen I’d say the opposite applies.

Like, the “following Gorta when Gorta’s being disingenous” thing really stuck out to me as level 1 powerwolfing.

Like

she has her own thought process here, and isnt really like sheeping shit mindlessly here

As wolf she mainly just kinda joins on others reasonings mainly to push for a mislynch

here she is actually like trying to read and like actually trying to solve tbh

Yeah i can see what you mean in regards to that

but i think cause we pretty much towncore`d, which is like, one of the few things here that town can agree at this point.

so you wolfreading her is viewed in a bad light here by quite a bit of people

Dont get me wrong

i hate how easy Leafia is to be read, and how easy it is to kinda pocket her as a wolf

which is why i think shes gonna be at lylo if we reach that point, unless, like Treeman and Grace are alive

then yeah, then she gets nk`d

idk if like treeman is wolf here entirely

but like

yeah, thats just me spouting an example

I mean, I was going through those one by one looking at context and this post

is the towniest Leafia post I’ve seen all game, but it’s still relatively NAI in a vacuum. The others I could all see going either way based on the context of the threadstate, especially if you account for coaching or someone just improving as a player.

This is not as exciting. Chloe had made the same player grouping 9 posts earlier, albeit not as a scumteam:

I’m more than willing and ready to suspend some disbelief and try to get on the same page (heck otherwise not using cold meta ever just wouldn’t work), especially since you’re in my top two townreads alongside Chloe at the moment. But this feels like someone in the thread suggested a rabbit hole based on Leafia meta and other players jumped on rather than thinking through things, and then haven’t reconsidered their read there ever all game.

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I really dislike the fact that the argument is essentially “Leafia is too shitty a player to be scum.”

I’m not actually a bad player you know.

I know

i hate it too, but like

thats legit how you read Leafia when she plays, which is just yea

shes trying to improve though, so i wish her best on that

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Yup. I’m always working on improving.

Because, like, while some of those might have been unsaid by others, not much there was hottakes, and the early ones were during RVS. So it’s definitely hard to get behind.

I’ll try to deep-dive (though it reminds me every time of how much I hate Discourse)…

@Leafia - Thought exercise: Let’s say you can form a 3-player scumteam out of Centuries, Gorta, Grace, Light, and Sulit. Who would it be and why?

mmm

Summary

i can’t help but feel like backing off of me when I’m starting to suspect you is really trying to transition in order to pocket me

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stolen

(As in im stealing it)

Class is about to start so I don’t have time to finish this thought but since math is usually “do what you want” earlier I’ll probably be back sooner before the period ends

Hmmm, out of those three? I’d have to say Centuries first mostly due to his 180 on Chloe. It just feels a bit unnatural for someone to change their view completely from just one post.

Second would be Sulit due to how indecisive she has been. I can definitely see her being scum.

If the last one had to be one of those three, I’d have to say Gorta due in part to his spanking and how Grace fes too comfortable in the thread to be a newbwolf and how Light just feels townie to me. He’s been active and his thought process seems logical enough to come from a villager.