Shortnight 2: Return of the POGGERS - Day 5 [6/15] - Mafoa win, Everybody (including chloe) loses

[Centuries]

@Arete

Wind: basically every read they’ve made this game has been forcing a conclusion/only considering things from the PoV of the conclusion they want, e.g. with one of their reads on me they were like ‘well Arete has been derpclearing people, and also pushing people, which could come from a wolf trying to pocket people and push miselims’ but never tried to consider or evaluate whether it made sense from a town perspective (they haven’t just been doing it with their read on me, they’ve been doing it with literally all their reads, this is just the first one that came to mind). they’ve also been misrepresenting more-or-less everything I’ve said, there are a handful of times where I can sort of see how someone could come to the conclusion they did once they explained it but for most of them … I have enough faith in their intelligence to believe that it wasn’t just a misunderstanding. Their reaction to my big wallpost also sucked, they basically tried to shade me by nitpicking minor details of what exactly my PoE was (which wasn’t remotely the point) and largely ignored the actual arguments until they were actually pressed on it. I think if I do end up flipping they’ll be very easy to read tomorrow based on how they end up reacting?

@Arete

Litten: pretty much an outed wolf, has spent most of the day misrepresenting what I’ve been saying and ignoring my explanations so that he can accuse me of pushing agenda on Wind, despite the fact that Wind hasn’t even flipped, he also seemed like he knew coming into the day that Marl was going to die, and his reaction overall to me saying that Chloe and Marshal were potentially V/V has been actually awful. Kill this slot always, it pretty much never flips town.

reminder

they are doing the same thing as they did with Marshal/Chloe wagon

Keeping status quo, coming up with conclusions before reasoning

I don’t have anything else to say

That’s it. My words are there, it’s you guys time to think

[WindwardAway]

you’re already voting me so you’re excused, but I want everyone else who SR’s me to actually vote me at EoD.

[WindwardAway]

look, i admitted all of my reads have been shit but I LITERALLY DO NOT KNOW WHO ELSE TO VOTE AT THIS POINT. I don’t think I will hit a wolf whoever I vote so does it matter??? no, my vote is a fucking waste of space.

[WindwardAway]

you know what
forget it, I’ve basically already left a legacy.
I don’t know about Gorta’s slot since I never really read him enough in this game, so he could go either way.
I think Centuries and Leafia are scum, the end.
I’m just gonna openwolf now and you can take my reads however you want.

/vote WindwardAway @katze

[katze]

Ban Count

Getting Banned	Banners	Votes to be Banned
WindwardAway	Centuries, WindwardAway	2/5
Leafia	Firekitten	1/5
Light	Leafia	1/5
Chloe	Light	1/5
Firekitten	Chloe	1/5
Not Voting	an_gorta_pratai, Grace, Blizer	3

[WindwardAway]

town is more likely to win with me out of the game
just trust me on this

[Centuries]

how am i not supposed to feel bad when i bully people through my reads

[WindwardAway]

idk, I’m not even trying to AtE
I just actually think town has a much higher chance of winning if I openwolf and vote myself

[WindwardAway]

also, I don’t think anyone will ever vote you out unless I die first

[Centuries]

how am i supposed to feel when i scumcase someone and they selfvote openwolf and ate

[WindwardAway]

confident, because you’re also voting me

[Centuries]

ok?

[WindwardAway]

the funny thing is, when I did this earlier, FK felt more confident I was a wolf and you seemed less confident
so idk

[WindwardAway]

I’m pretty sure the information you’ll gain from my flip will outweigh what you get if I don’t flip and survive till LyLo or something

so all I have to say is

[WindwardAway]

@WindwardAway

the funny thing is, when I did this earlier, FK felt more confident I was a wolf and you seemed less confident

uh I’ll elaborate on this later, I had a thought about it and that’s why I mentioned it here

[WindwardAway]

actually I wanted to clear FK’s slot with my flip but I just realized I can do it without voting myself so I’ll explain instead.

FK thought the last time I voted myself and said “ggs” I was openwolfing as a wolf and thereby admitting to be scum.
But this conclusion doesn’t make sense if he’s a wolf imo. I can only see him reaching that conclusion as town, because he doesn’t know my alignment.

gonna throw my vote back where it was before. don’t care if it looks dumb; i can still change my mind later.

/vote Centuries @katze

[katze]

Ban Count

Getting Banned	Banners	Votes to be Banned
WindwardAway	Centuries	1/5
Leafia	Firekitten	1/5
Light	Leafia	1/5
Chloe	Light	1/5
Firekitten	Chloe	1/5
Centuries	WindwardAway	1/5
Not Voting	an_gorta_pratai, Grace, Blizer	3

[WindwardAway]

I should also really learn to not try RTs while the other side of the world is asleep tbh
it doesn’t work lol

[Centuries]

ahahaah yes

ignore empathy, return to monke

[Centuries]

was it all a plan to avoid having to answer my megapost?

be honest