Small Noble/Aristocrat change and a bigger Apostle change

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#1

Noble/Aristocrat

Replace Noble Twins with the following ability:

Day Ability 2: Reorder - Change the player maid spy is watching to Target player. Can’t be used if you didn’t set a spy last night. (3 uses)

This allows you to change who’s whispers you see mid day a few times. Can also be used if you sent a spy to a dead player. It does NOT however allow you to use the ability if you were to be occupied or prevented for any reason.

Apostle

Make Cult spy 2 target and add a new passive:

Passive: Dark whispers - You can talk to the other cultists privately durring the day in a Cult chat tab.

This should help dud spy’s without being OP. It also replaces the Weak but pointlessly confirmable Noble Twins and makes it far harder to discover an Apostle during the day.

If someone demands that an Apostle demonstrate knowledge of 2 players Whispers in the same day there are a few options:

1 - Get lucky and have a Spy on the person that demands a test. With 2 targets that’s fairly likely by the time you are converted.

2 - Claim to be out of Reorder’s

3 - Claim to not have an active Spy for any reason.

The day chat helps even more because you can relay whisper contents through it for either proving or for general planning ect.

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#2

A aristrocrat can win the game
By king finger the assassin
Bd voting assassin

Then veto them

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#3

What!?

#4

That doesn’t win the game they just vote up you instead for vetoing the assassin lynch.

#5

Yes it does
2 v 2

If you aren’t voted up you win…

#6

King has to use finger and that’s 1
Time use

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#7

Just use political pressure to vote up the king.

#8

No need for Noble Twins

#9

Can’t make somone vote the king

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#10

Yes you can. You can even make them vote for themselves.

You just can’t control the King’s vote.

#11

Oh…

#12

10/10 I would love if this was in the game.

I like this because it gives it more of that mystic sense to it

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#13

Yup. Also makes it a bit easier to fake a reorder use without actually having the ability.

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#14

Maid spy is already pointless if someone is not going to whisper

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#15

This is false, you cannot make someone vote the king. You can have them vote for themselves though.

I agree with the first sentiment of this post. We should get rid of as many instant day proving abilities as possible in my opinion. Noble twins is such an ability. Vote someone up for a trial and have everyone pardon, while noble uses his ability. This is a very suitable replacement. Not sure how I feel about a cult day chat though. That makes Apostle vastly stronger than Aristocrat, which is wrong to me.

#16

But it is supposed to be a mystic/noble convert so it should still have mystic’s social aspect to it

Also it should feel stronger imo since it is a class convert mixed with 2 classes

#17

Since Noble Twins weren’t often used abillity, since there is Political Pressure in game that is using way more often, so change is reasonable.

Interesting, i already saw an idea of adding additional Day tab for evil’s the question is how often it would be used since, the Cult should always pay attention in chat, just saying.

Overall, changes are pretty neat and im pretty sure not impossible to implement into the game.

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#18

/support, but cult spy should just be changed into a passive instead(the same would happen for aristocrat):
Advanced hearing- you may hear all whispers

#19

What about aristocrat?

#20

Aristocrat was given the same change as Noble.