Small Noble/Aristocrat change and a bigger Apostle change

Oh I was talking about his message of all whisper

While I am open to the idea I am worried that might be OP. Also they would need a new Primary ability to replace it. Not a big deal for Apostle but it is something to think about.

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Same deal.

A way we can buff unseen converts is to give a passive to ethier duchess or the observer convert

That lets them hear all the whispers.

Could be called
Listener
Or gossiper

But then aristrocrat is useless for maid spy… sigh

He’s saying to just give that passive to Aristocrat.

Not sure what to replace Maid Spy with in that situation.

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I really want to buff those converts though

Nightwatch is really good though. Knowing the class of a neut for example can be game changing. I’ve won because I used Watch carefully and found the reaper and then a fool (and I called the fool Unseen).

If there is no sheriff in the game

The converted observer will probably never be suspected cause of how good those logs can be

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Duchess needs a buff though.

Day faction check maybe?

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Buff the dark wisps?

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Dark wisp is really good.

Yea it is good

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Compare all the unseen converts to the cult converts and you’ll see that unseen converts tend to be way more powerful. This is intentional design, because all cult roles have the potential to become a powerful cult leader and cult can have 4 members. Apostle should not feel more powerful than Aristocrat.

But right now Apostle IS less powerful than the Unseen convert.

Illusionist is clearly better than Apostle.

And that is good!

People remeber this

Unseen converts>Cult converts

Number 1 rule

Isn’t that accomplished by giving the Cult converts limited uses on their ability’s?

For example the Invoker is simply stronger than Servant before taking into account the limited uses on his Occupy.

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Yea
And then there’s people who think they should have unlimited uses which defeats the purpose

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