Solution to the King Meta

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#42

Puppet string use the prince as the puppet string then you learn all the claims.

Then you don’t even need to worry about the prince kill all those who claimed to the prince and that can harm you.

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#43

I mean so who cares if the prince isn’t dead from COD.

Those two knights and physicians are and I would prob worry more about them then the prince.

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#44

that’s just uncorrect Coordination of the BD, Also this can problematic for the Sorc, because it mean less suspects for the INQ.

Also, if you have a mass claim, and like often evil don’t claim, if not impossible to find the NK because he even has to chance to mess with your strategy.

#45

I mean day one prince claim.

Isn’t a lot of coordination.

#46

Prince meta isn’t an issue because there is always an answer to it. King meta only has Reaper and that’s only a temporary measure. That’s why we have king meta instead of prince meta.

The core issue is that BD can safely get information to a single player and no one else. It doesn’t matter which player that is so long as they can control who. That is why thing’s like EKing and Noble/Aristocrat/Apostle are supposed to stop the meta. However they are not enough.

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#47

Just remove whispers in general

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#48

Imo king meta is fine because there are so many threats to it. If people do it they do it. You cant tear your game apart to prevent the king meta

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#49

We could add a claimvig ability to Assassin. xD

#50

Actually. Nobles getting informationj just make the meta even worst, because they are not an enemy, Nobles are members of the BD.
an apostle can be a threat, but only if they have brains to not claim noble. because the Noble is Confirmable.

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#51

Simple solution: Replace Noble Twin

#52

*remove

Noble doesn’t need it

#53

What I meant by Replace was Remove Noble Twin, which only serves to confirm a Noble’s existence and isn’t even useful in any situation because it can’t be used with PP, and add another Social Ability that would help assist the Noble

#54

I’m saying he doesn’t need another ability. He is fairly balenced before taking it into account.

#55

I see, that’s actually pretty true, although my one thing would be to bring back Private Matter to Noble from Mystic

#56

Then we would be right back where we started with confirmability

#57

I’d say Noble is still extremely confirmable with PP and Spy, Private Matter is just bringing some power from the even more powerful Mystic (who never even uses PM in most situations involving coordination with Link Minds/Conduit) to Noble so that it has some use at least

#58

It actually serves to prove a Noble is not converted in cult games, so it isn’t complete garbage

#59

Abilities whose only purpose is auto-confirmation are bad, though.

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#60

that’s the point, it only confirms Noble amd that’s not healthy for the game

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#61

PP already does a good job of making Noble almost completely confirmable unless you can coordinate faking it wih teammates