Solution to the King Meta

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#62

Thats why PM would be bad too. It could be used the same way

#63

Apostle can fake PP but not twins. That’s the issue

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#64

With Royal Blood being nerfed I will support removing Noble twin in the spirit of the current reworks, I do ask that the Noble gets another 1-2 uses of PP to compensate

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#65

okay true, Noble doesn’t even need it

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#66

I’ve had an Aristocrat save me as MM on the stand before using Noble Twin. It isn’t completely useless.

#67

That is rare

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#68

I don’t think it would be bad for Aristocrat to have it, but it being in a Noble’s toolbelt is less good

#69

And also not worth the ability. If you used PP he wouldn’t be on the stand in the first place

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#70

King meta is fine, if everyone claims to the court games would become a shitshow. Having someone manage the info is fine. BD has nobles to get whispers so they can have them become king later etc…

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#71

Your response would only fit in occasions when the king is good. If the king is evil, though, the BD does not have someone to manage their information, but a traitor that can find allies and reveal all claims, including the prince, to them. And this is why the king meta is bad. Prince is forced to claim to evil king and shortly after dies.

#72

Then remove Allies.

#73

No. Remove king meta

#74

I think Allies is a fine ability for EVIL King

#75

I feel pretty confident about saying King meta will never go away. Not unless King itself is removed. This is because King meta is a (I believe intended) result of how King is designed as a social leader.

#76

That doesn’t make it good. And in fact steps have already been taken to gradually curb the meta

#77

Jailor meta was not common because people didn’t had enough protection and feared being killed if they were outed as Jailor. I think that the solution would be to remove Guards! and maybe make it a ability where king can only guard self. It would remove some of the “inkillable” feeling Princes have when outing.

#78

I mean I would love to see the person who thinks they are unkillable as prince because I will show them the wonders Of sellsword/reaper/Sorc

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#79

Otherway around. Kings are the ones that have too much protection. Not prince

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#80

Ah yes. Good times

#81

People are already starting to claim less to King because of the lost of OE. The problem with Prince is that the entire class concept is to occupy, talk with and maybe kill someone.