[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

to be fair i did point out some scummy posts
but

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I gave Evo some time to build some case but they didn’t give me much at EoD. To be fair, I definitely should’ve unvote and start voting EVO but I lost track of time and Marl hammered himself so rip.

I needed a while to comprehend the entirety of wind’s wallpost, but I’mma go and ISO min for any potential reasons they were the night kill

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im on mobile and going to sleep but pretend my vote is on windward right now

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BTW I know this is petty.
But I’m just going to say “I told you so”

Marl, I know you and you know me.
I’m really sorry I couldn’t save you and that I wasn’t on for EoD.

I made it clear I townread you and preferred the EVO wagon. I’ll do my best to analyse it in retrospect though. I’m certain there’s 2 wolves on your wagon if not more because if you hadn’t died there you’d have likely been un-ML-able this game.

Thanks for what you did.

Me: goes through min’s ISO and quotes lots of stuff
Quotes: are gone
Orz

Lol.
Anyways, maybe that’s for the best, considering it would have been tainted by my views/perception anyways? Their ISO isn’t particularly long, so i suggest checking it out if you wanna help analize

Anyways, there were some minor points that could have been reasons, mainly:
They tried preventing the eevee/PKR thing from ballooning out, i can imagine that if both of those are town, that could be disliked by mafia

Their reads weren’t really strong enough for a mafia to feel threatened, i think.
…at least, excluding marl, and he’s already flipped
Curiously though they was also on the marl wagon. I’m not entirely sure what that means

But general conclusion is… inconclusive, I think

Unless they suspected min of being a PR, maybe? But i didn’t find a reason for that at all, so i doubt it

@Tilgarial I have a question for you, before I forget.
What made you suspect that Marl might be a 3p yesterday?

iirc their other SR was Aelin
and it was between voting Aelin or Marl for them, but Aelin just wasn’t a wagon.

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Hmm…
Wait, lemme dig out the posts i made on that

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in fact
the two hardest pushers on Aelin are both dead right now
Marl and Min

There was some stuff with aelin in the ISO too, even excluding the reads
Mainly the whole change in writing style being suspect. Aelin could habe gone grudge-kill in that?
You think that might’ve been a thing?

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I didn’t really have a case for anyone yet. From this logic it seems I would have to manifest a reason to scumread somebody for you to have been happy. That is a very strange way to attempt and read someone.

But putting that aside, I have a variety of things to discuss, including Gorta’s surprise vote, PKR and Eevee being absent EoD, Wagonomics (ugh) and why Min of all people was killed.

Windward you seem reliable enough ISO’ing could you maybe look into Min’s ideas and see if anything may have threatened scum?

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regardless of grudge killing I think getting out the two people pushing her would make sense if she’s scum
could also be a frame so tbh I’m not sure what the NK says about Aelin.
but consider that Aelin, despite SRing Marl, decided yesterday that EVO (whom she also SR’d) was a better vote
question is whether Aelin was trying to grab towncred for it, as she started saying that Marl could just be a tunnelled villager and then decided EVO looked the worse of the two.

yup, I was gonna do that anyway. I think Eli is on it too so he may also have thoughts.

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T. I have only seen you asking questions. Do you have any thoughts about Gorta in particular?

Quites are flipped, second one is first

Hmm… Self analyzing, i just saw in the serch function talk about neutrals was a thing before this, in the favourite-faction talk somebody asked about
Otherwise, it seems to have started with a weird feeling from marl, that wasn’t necessarily mafia?
I’m not sure why i didnt go to the conclusion of him being mafia from that, tbh

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I am kind of unhappy with how things went with gorta, considering they basically came in, read one side, said “nothing seems town about this one” and voted them, in a situation that’s on a high-tie.
And I did intend on asking about it at some point, because it could’ve just been a busy town.

It’s not necessarily AI, though

Kind of a hedgy answer

But fair enough.

Current Notes
  1. EliThePsycho - Null/Townlean, [REDACTED]
  2. an_gorta_pratai - [REDACTED]
  3. Aelin - scumlean, Activity would match a Scum investigator
  4. PokemonKidRyan - Townread, (meta)
  5. clonedcheese - Townlean, (meta)
  6. lol - true null, PoE
  7. Intensify - Null
  8. WindwardAway - Townlean, positive thread influence
  9. eevee - null, PoE, negative thread influence
  10. cdecora - true null, PoE
  11. GonZ - Null/Townlean, [REDACTED]
  12. Tilgarial - null, PoE, (iioa?)
  13. Marluxion - Executed D1, Nahrenne (Town Vanilla)
  14. min - Killed D1, AliceShiki (Town Vanilla)

Pretty vague but I’ll iso the PoE soon enough.