[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

[lol]

also while i appreciate it im pretty sure there is many scenarios where i am mafia and the only reason you are spewing me is because the rand flip was mafia and not a townie lol

[Intensify]

Hmm…

It’s a lot hard to tell the intentions of the tie since he was top wagon.

[PokemonKidRyan]

Oopsies. Seems I got a warning point, oh well.
Honestly I was going to end up voting EVO probably and breaking the tie.

I’m kinda glad I didn’t so I’ll take that point on the chin since it worked out for us.

[PokemonKidRyan]

Also I am sure some of you will have been able to note how I arrived literally the minute Aelin flipped. She wasn’t quite on my radar but wasn’t a clear either for me.

So I’m happy enough

[PokemonKidRyan]

So far we have a neopolitan aka “Vanilla Cop” (Me), a 2 shot Doc (Cloned) and EVO who claims a cop who gets town/non-town results.

It’s not the weakest but certainly not a strong setup.

I got a Non-VT result last night.

[WindwardAway]

@lol

also while i appreciate it im pretty sure there is many scenarios where i am mafia and the only reason you are spewing me is because the rand flip was mafia and not a townie lol

you would be correct lol
I wrote out all my thoughts in my notes overnight and had mixed feelings

[WindwardAway]

honestly I just feel dumb for scouring the min NK for clues on Aelin and then having my theory dismissed, then went to townleaning Aelin later on which was w r o n g

[WindwardAway]

I thought EVO retracted his cop claim

[Intensify]

Aelin’s flip reminded me of something,

She was in my Nullread after I scumread her for wierd tonal transistion and I’ve been worrying about not finding a scumread after EVO and PKR did the things that I forgot I should probably be pushing ppl in my nulls since I have a decent amount of folks I townread.

/vote Gonz

[PokemonKidRyan]

I keep saying VT, but it’s a non-vanilla result. Not just VT. I’m just so used to VT in the co text of “vanilla” that I keep saying it

[PokemonKidRyan]

Wait, EVO did? Remember I wasn’t here for EoD lol.
So no clue.

[Intensify]

After Eevee told everyone the thing, he unvoted Cloned, and revealed it was fake

[WindwardAway]

part of what I pulled overnight:

Early D2 posts regarding the Min NK and their read on Aelin

@Tilgarial

Does anybody remember mins reads/did she give us a readlist at any point?

@WindwardAway

@Tilgarial

Their reads weren’t really strong enough for a mafia to feel threatened, i think.

…at least, excluding marl, and he’s already flipped
Curiously though they was also on the marl wagon. I’m not entirely sure what that means

iirc their other SR was Aelin
and it was between voting Aelin or Marl for them, but Aelin just wasn’t a wagon.

@WindwardAway

in fact
the two hardest pushers on Aelin are both dead right now
Marl and Min

@WindwardAway

regardless of grudge killing I think getting out the two people pushing her would make sense if she’s scum
could also be a frame so tbh I’m not sure what the NK says about Aelin.
but consider that Aelin, despite SRing Marl, decided yesterday that EVO (whom she also SR’d) was a better vote
question is whether Aelin was trying to grab towncred for it, as she started saying that Marl could just be a tunnelled villager and then decided EVO looked the worse of the two.

@EVO

Aelin - scumlean, Activity would match a Scum investigator

@WindwardAway

min’s reads were:

Eevee/PKR not w/w
Intensify kind of sus
Eli scum gutread
Aelin scummy but unsure
lol scumread
Cloned townread
Tilgarial questionable toward EoD

@EVO

@WindwardAway

Min wasn’t sure of Aelin at first, and like the rest of us, wasn’t sure whether Aelin’s wolfing or not.

Noted

@EVO

@WindwardAway

at this point in time, Min SR’d Aelin more than Marl and was still undecided on Marl.

Worthy of looking into tbh but idk yet

@WindwardAway

Min decided to give Aelin the benefit of the doubt

Which should have cleared any reason to kill them id assume, but I’ll look more into it

This isn’t just for the purpose of saying “I told you so”. It’s to point out that the NK on Min was, in fact, possibly correlated to their reads. I don’t know yet why Aelin chose to wagon EVO over Marl on D1, though.

[WindwardAway]

yeah he was worried his post would get buried but i bookmarked it so here:

[Standard] NUF FM 2 - Day 3 (11/15)

Here is the play in question. I took this immediate response as a possible reaction that I was looking for. Some kind of push for the meat of the information immediately with no regards to benefits of withholding it. Anddddd you go from townlean to scumread so fucking quick I was hinting here (mainly towards Wind) that my train of thought was directly related to PKR’s lunge for info. In hindsight this could come from a PR. But from my POV stuff like this could be scum sweating, meaning…

[Intensify]

@WindwardAway

min’s reads were:

@WindwardAway

Intensify kind of sus

Wtf is this.

Min literally had 2 NAI posts on me reee

[PokemonKidRyan]

I guess I’m the only investigative.
At least I’m the only one who’s produced results then.

I’m not outting who I checked yet.
Honestly I would ask people to claim vanilla v PR but I know that’s dangerous.

And my info is like basically minimalistic since before I thought EVO with cop could have made sense with us tag teaming. But now I basically know “Can this person act”

And I guess I need to interpret towniness or scuminess for myself.

I chose someone I somewhat scumread.

[EliThePsycho]

nerds

[eevee]

Tbh I still dont understand why both PKR and Cloned claimed.

[an_gorta_pratai]

@WindwardAway

I have a feeling Gorta was not paying attention to the vote count and it’s way >rand town.

No, I wanted to see EVO dead and thought with lol’s vote the wagons were tied. I voted EVO because I thought I was breaking the tie. I tried unvoting, but I got the “the body is too similar to a previous message” and then couldn’t resend before the EoD

[Intensify]

I mean Cloned didn’t fully claim which PR he was.

He probably did claim to be a PR cause PKR has a “non-VT” check on him so it was pointless to lie